Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger Thread

Discussion in 'Germany' started by eissman, Mar 19, 2007.

  1. eissman

    eissman Member+

    Feb 5, 2004
    Illinois
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    FC Bayern München
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    United States
    Another great historical article from "the master"...LINK

    Enjoy.
     
  2. Alex_K

    Alex_K Member+

    Mar 23, 2002
    Braunschweig, Germany
    Club:
    Eintracht Braunschweig
    Nat'l Team:
    Bhutan
    Re: Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger article

    Thanks Uli. If you're as successful as me here, not a single person will stop saying Karlsruher though. But A+ for effort! :D
     
  3. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
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    Minnesota United FC
    Re: Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger article

    Changed title to "Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger thread" since he is pretty constant with his articles.
     
  4. Vfbstuttgartfan

    Aug 3, 2004
    Stuttgart
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    VfB Stuttgart
    Re: Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger article

    I can't believe i just read an entire article on Karlsruhe.
     
  5. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Hey, any team that destroys Valencia 7-0 deserves some respek!
     
  6. NUFCBayern

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    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
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    I'm currently reading "Tor!" Great book so far.
     
  7. Gregoriak

    Gregoriak BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 27, 2002
    Munich
    After recommendations by Dead Fingers and Eissman, I read that book too only recently. A great effort. What chapter are you reading currently?
     
  8. Dead Fingers

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    Jan 22, 2004
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  9. eissman

    eissman Member+

    Feb 5, 2004
    Illinois
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    United States
    And hopefully with DF's and Eissman's encourage, we will get "The complete statistical history of Deustchland Fussball" by Gregoriak from BS!!! :D
     
  10. eissman

    eissman Member+

    Feb 5, 2004
    Illinois
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    United States
    Thanks DF! Great stuff... I just love this guys prose. His style if witty, honest, empathetic, and forthright. Each column is its own "book" of sorts.

    I would love to have a collection someday. This thread just may be it!
    Prost!
     
  11. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I personally thought that there were some parts of his book that really underrated the german team and gave a wrong picture to anyone reading it (especially the 1970 qf!!! and to an extent the 1974 final match). In discussion with gregoriak, he agreed.

    I haven't read the whole book yet :) but that's what I saw in the certain parts that I read.
     
  12. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
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    What do you mean underrate? I thought he was pretty glowing and pretty fair to those teams, especially the 72 team (rightfully so). Even calls the 70 semifinal against Italy as rather shameful, where the Germans were screwed. 74, he gives the Dutch their deserved credit. And goes into the behind the scenes soap opera which was happening with the German team.

    Not sure what you were looking for?
    :confused:
     
  13. deleted

    deleted Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Uli's book is not really leant towards providing us stories and info on the teams as much as on the history of german football and off-field matters as a whole I reckon. Even though I've not read it all; from the little bits I've read here and there and from his introduction (which i read fully), I can gather that.

    He could have talked more about the 1972 team I reckon.

    What I meant about 70 and 74 were about the actual matches in concern. The QF and the final. Not the most accurate descriptions. I wasn't talking about the other info on those tournaments and of course the dutch were more impressive than us before the final in 1974.
     
  14. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
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    It sounds like you wanted more "behind the scenes", more player information, and more info on each of the games? Hell, I would imagine he could write a book just on the NT from 70-74. You should email him from the article link. He does read them. :)
     
  15. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
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    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah i actually thought that it was more about that, but yeah, still pretty good to read.
     
  16. Dead Fingers

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    Jan 22, 2004
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    I'm with you. WE Always want more of the good stuff. :)
     
  17. Chris in SoCal

    Chris in SoCal New Member

    Mar 9, 2006
    Orange County
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    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Uli Hesse-Lichtenberger

    Why have Uli's articles at Soccernet.com been so infrequent this season? In the past, he wrote an article every 2 weeks. Now, he does not even average 1 per month. On a similar topic, I am also upset that Foxsoccer.com no longer employs Oliver Hinz. That's one less journalist covering German soccer in English on the net(leaving only Uli, to my knowledge). Very sad set of circumstances, IMO. :(
     
  18. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
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    Borussia Dortmund
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    Germany
    german football is about strength, running in straight lines and courage

    not very attractive.

    espn decided to show the deutsche pokal semi finals, and how do they advertise it? "speed strength and courage of german soccer". pfft
     
  19. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
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  20. eissman

    eissman Member+

    Feb 5, 2004
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  21. Dead Fingers

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    Jan 22, 2004
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  22. panicfc

    panicfc Member+

    Dec 22, 2000
    In my chair, typing
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Glad I found this thread. read "Tor" back in march before the trip to Germany. Ulli changed my feelings on Bayern, and I don't hold it against him.

    ;)
     
  23. NUFCBayern

    NUFCBayern Moderator
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    Apr 9, 2004
    Columbus, OH
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    FC Bayern München
    Good article. I had never realized the Bochum-Schalke derby was so passionate.

    It was funny to hear that when Stuttgart went up 3-2, Bochum fans sang "You'll never win the league"...at Schalke :D
     
  24. benztown

    benztown Member+

    Jun 24, 2005
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    It's hard to understand the "Ruhrpott". I've heard recently, that Schalke fans hate Essen even more than Dortmund.

    Whatever, Uli is right. It's always great when there is passion in the derby between "Herne-West" and "Lüdenscheid-Nord" :D
     

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