Ukrainian Clubs in 2016-2017 UEFA Competitions [R]

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by EvanJ, Jul 15, 2016.

  1. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Shakhtar Donetsk (81.976 coefficient) will host the first leg of Champions League Qualifying Round 3 against Young Boys of Switzerland (24.755 coefficient).

    Vorskla Poltava (11.976 coefficient) will host the second leg of Europa League Qualifying Round 3 against RoPS of Finland (1.980 coefficient, but for Qualifying Round 2 they took the coefficient from the seeded club they beat in Qualifying Round 1) or Lokomotiva of Croatia (5.775 coefficient).

    FC Oleksandriya (8.976 coefficient) will host the first leg of Europa League Qualifying Round 3 against CSMS Iasi of Romania (5.076 coefficient) or Hajduk Split of Croatia (10.775 coefficient).
     
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  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UEFA says Shakhtar Donetsk had reached the last six Champions League Group Stages, but that streak is over. They won 2:0 hosting the first leg, lost 2:0 today at Young Boys, and lost penalty kicks 4:2. Shakhtar Donetsk will have the highest coefficient of the 44 clubs in the Europa League Playoff Round.
     
  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vorskla Poltava 2:3 Lokomotiva Zagreb (Lokomotiva Zagreb won aggregate 3:2)
    Hajduk Split 3:1 Oleksandriya (Hajduk Split won aggregate 6:1)
     
  4. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the Europa League Playoff Round, Shakhtar Donetsk will host the second leg against Istanbul Basaksehir of Turkey. Shakhtar Donetsk has an 81.976 coefficient and Istanbul Basaksehir has a 7.920 coefficient, which ranks ninth out of the 22 unseeded clubs. The games will be on Thursday 18 August and Thursday 25 August.
     
  5. JoeTerp

    JoeTerp Member

    Jul 9, 2007
    USA
    Where will Зоря play their EL group games ? Also in Запоріжжя?


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  6. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Zorya will play their UEFA Europa league games at the Chornomorets Stadium in Odesa.
     
  7. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Nice win for Dynamo in their last CL game, a 6-0 drubbing of Besiktas. If not for the totally lethargic offense, this team should have beenplaying European football in the Spring. Look at the standings, Dynamo are last with the best GA stat!
     
  8. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ukraine is eighth in the country coefficients for 2012-2013 through 2016-2017 so far, but has only 5.100 so far in 2016-2017, which is sixteenth.
     
  9. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Troubles in the country translate into troubles on the pitch.
     
  10. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What specific clubs or players have done worse due to troubles in the country?
     
  11. rbubela

    rbubela Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    NorCal
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    - Metalist, arguably the 3rd most successful club in the last 10 years, has folded.
    - Metalurg Donetsk, produced the likes of Mkhitaryan and Yaya Toure, has been disolved (although they have "merged" with another club). Metalurg D was a solid mid-table club on the verge of building a new, soccer-only stadium. They could have probably developed a niche following in what is mostly Shakhtar territory.
    - Dnipro has sold the vast majority of their first team - still have outstanding debts to players and coaches (Juande Ramos).
    - Odessa Chornomorets had a solid club with a beautiful new home ground. They had begun to seriously compete in Europe (2014 Europa League Round of 32).

    The irony is the past success of these four clubs was a symptom of the problems in Ukraine. The fact that these clubs could spend lavishly on foreign players and new stadiums while the vast majority of the population struggled to maintain parity with their immediate neighbors to the north, west, and east displays the rotted core of Ukraine. Though I would not go as far as to say the capitulation and failure of these clubs is a sign that Ukraine has returned, or finally arrived, to some form of distributive economic justice, I would say the failure of Ukraine's "industrial football complex" is a step in the direction of shedding Ukraine's oligarchic identity. I would also add two disclaimers to the aforementioned claim. One, the failure of the "football complex" is a result of the collapse of the Ukrainian economy not a result of harnessing and disrupting the oligarchic class. Two, the shedding of Ukraine's oligarchic identity is a transgenerational project. Incremental steps are just that, signs of change but nothing close to developing a nation state resembling some of the better models of central Europe that Ukrainian reformists hope for.

    As for your second question concerning the players. In the long run, the mass exodus of Ukrainian youth and veterans will serve them better. I came of age watching the likes of Milevskiy and Aliev be treated like football royalty despite never accomplishing anything of any significance outside of Ukraine. Their development stalled (or who knows maybe they would have sucked just as much in Europe), their egos swelled, and their careers flat lined. Zinchenko, Yurchneko, Shved, are best served fighting for places in top European squads rather than basking in the glow that comes with being a top footballer in celebrity and news starved Ukrainian sports media.
     
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  12. Gio-13

    Gio-13 Member

    Aug 26, 2007
    watching skywalkers
    Club:
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk
    There can be only one!
     

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