UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London [R]

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  1. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
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    Dec 30, 2001
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    UFC's putting on kind of a loaded show here to help get further into the European market. Here are some guesses as to what makes the live show and what gets taped first for later viewing if there's time remaining:

    Live matches:
    UFC/Pride 205 lb. Unification: Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson
    Mirko Cro Cop vs. Cheick Kongo
    Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill
    Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara
    Marcus Davis vs. Paul Taylor

    Taped matches:
    Thiago Silva vs. Tomasz Drwal
    Jess Liaudin vs. Anthony Johnson
    Gleison Tibau vs. Terry Etim
    Naoyuki Kotani vs. Dennis Siver

    -- Those four top matches could be at least really good. I will be firmly parked on the couch for this one.

    -- I'm thinking Rampage steps it up against another quality opponent, though Henderson will make him work for it.

    -- It gets no easier for Cro Cop against Kongo, though I think Cro Cop will pull it off. Hopefully he's learned to keep his hands up.

    -- Bisping's fighting really well right now and I think he gets a LHW title shot within the next year.

    -- Alexander's a bad, bad man and I'm looking forward to seeing him fight again.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    "-- I'm thinking Rampage steps it up against another quality opponent, though Henderson will make him work for it."

    Henderson is a tough guy he can win and unless he get's clipped in the face like Lodell got clipped. If not Henderson will probably win.

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    "It gets no easier for Cro Cop against Kongo, though I think Cro Cop will pull it off. Hopefully he's learned to keep his hands up."

    Cro Cop will probably win.

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    "-- Bisping's fighting really well right now and I think he gets a LHW title shot within the next year."

    There was a post made recent;y by a deaf soccer fan from England. I told him take in this fight because the guy Bisping is fighting Matt Hamel an American is an former wrestler is deaf. He is being trained by Tito Ortiz. Bisping should win.
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    --" Alexander's a bad, bad man and I'm looking forward to seeing him fight again."

    Well he ate the Dean of Mean for breakfast no doubt about that. He was rocked just before he did that so let's wait and see if he can do it again.
     
  3. MLSNHTOWN

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    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    1. Isn't this one going to be free on Spike?
    2. For those that purchase PPV's, I know they air the fights that are live and occasionally fill in some of the taped matches for filler if the live fights go too quickly, but do they show the rest of the taped matches at the end of a PPV bout? A lot of the time the taped matches are sometimes better than the live matches.
    3. That card looks sick. Hammil v. Bisping should be a hell of a fight...thought I wasn't super impressed with Hammil and my guess is that he is going to be a little over his head against Bisping.
     
  4. TheSlipperyOne

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    He'll need to keep those hands up against Kongo. Kongo is long and wiry and I've seen him unleash some high kicks.

    Bisping has been great and UFC is really pushing him in England. Hamill has some talent. He's still learning though and will really be overmatched in this fight. I expect The Count to dominate while Hamill just tries defending from his back.

    He just unleashed about 15 years of rage when he crushed Jardine. Ever since then I've looked forward to watching him again to see if that was a one-time fight for him or if it's sustainable.
     
  5. TheSlipperyOne

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Yep.

    Sometimes the PPVs have shown the taped matches after all the live fights and sometimes they don't. I haven't figured out how they decide though.
     
  6. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
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    I agree.
     
  7. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
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    Dec 30, 2001
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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    It all comes down to time left after the scheduled live fights.

    If there are a bunch of early finishes and they've got, for example, 30 minutes left in the broadcast, they'll stick in whatever taped matches they have the time to.
     
  8. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
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    Cro Cop is in Crotia working on his ground game with Dean Lister.
     
  9. TheSlipperyOne

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    I was watching the countdown show tonight and I still can't believe the fights they have lined up for Saturday! This is a show I would definitely pay for if I had to.

    My predictions for the big 3 fights:

    Henderson in the 2nd round.
    Cro Cop in the 2nd.
    Bisping in the 3rd.
     
  10. Bison1997

    Bison1997 Moderator
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    Dec 30, 2001
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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    This is totally a more stacked show than the PPV in a couple of weeks - again, I really think they're trying to grow the brand in the UK (especially with Bisping right there).

    Also, 3 PM PPVs in the US during the second week of college football season probably aren't the best idea.

    But yeah, I'd throw down some money for this show in a second.

    -- Rampage by split decision.
    -- Cro Cop in the 3rd.
    -- Bisping in the 3rd.
     
  11. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Tonights the night
     
  12. Moishe

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Houston Alexander just destroyed Sakara first round TKO
     
  13. ssanchez

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    Oct 15, 2000
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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    There is no R so please do not post results!!!!
    Mods please remove the post as it spoiled one fight for me already
     
  14. ssanchez

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Jackson Henderson I don't wanna make a prediction but I do want Rampage to win

    Crocop should be a stand up war with congo being the only other fighter with worse ground skills than Cro Cop

    I am taking Hamill over bisbing because of his really strong wrestling.
     
  15. Benedict XVI

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    Nov 22, 1999
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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    you didn't take into account the fact the evidently UFC is as corrupt as boxing and they would just hand the fight to bisbing to play to the crowd.

    what a joke.
     
  16. TheSlipperyOne

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    That judging was an absolute travesty. Hamill was completely robbed.

    UFC wants to grow but then they have a fight like that happen. Dana White should be ashamed. Rogan and Goldie should face mockery every time they announce a match now that they didn't once bring up what a farce that was.

    Hamill was class in a tainted defeated and the crowd even applauded him because they knew who the real winner was.
     
  17. DoyleG

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Hamill wasn't clearly aggressive enough. He had Bisping on the mat at least twice but allowed him to get back up. Poor showing of aggression in those instances.

    Don't think that Cro Cop is built for the octagon. He could've done better against Kongo.

    Alexander simply lit up Sakara.

    Loved the main event.
     
  18. Benedict XVI

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    but bisping was agressive enough? how? by getting the crap beat out of him for two rounds?

    joke.
     
  19. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
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    Hamil won that fight.

    Worst decision I have every saw in my life was in boxing the Patterson v Ellis fight.

    The World Boxing Association staged an eight-man tournament to determine Ali's successor. Patterson, in a third and final attempt at winning the title a third time, lost a controversial fifteen-round referee's decision to Jimmy Ellis in Sweden despite breaking Ellis' nose and knocking Ellis down.
     
  20. DoyleG

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Read the post before you respond.
     
  21. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
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    Yes want to see him when he goes down with a good Brazilian JuJitsu guy.

    Is he an older Melvin Dollard?

    How about him matching with the Ice Man?
     
  22. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
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    The main event was a great fight.

    I wonder who both these guys will fight next?

    Cro Cop is in trouble he will still fight in the UFC but against who? Who ever it is he better not lose. Or we will see him in the IFL.

    It was a good card and the price was right.

    I do feel bad for Hamil. He will be back. he did stay on his feet to much.

    Do what your real good at and work on what your not as good at. But, remember always what got you there.
     
  23. MLSNHTOWN

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    Oct 27, 1999
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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    Hammill let Bisping back up because he was better on his feet than Bisping was. If it was Cro Crop who did it, the strategy totally makes sense. But Hamill did it because he worked 18 months straight on striking and he was better at striking than Bisping and there was no reason to wrestle with him and risk an arm bar or some fluke submission.

    The decision was a crock. How can one judge have it 30-27 and the other judges have it 29-28 the other way? At a minimum, I saw it 29-28 Hammill (at minimum).

    Worst MMA decision I have ever seen. But now White has to deal with the same problems boxing has......

    $$$$ = people attempting to rig the fights.
     
  24. BigGuy

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    Apr 12, 2007
    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    That's why you never want a fight to go to a decision.

    I will give a decision change. Matt Serra once fought Din Thomas. He got the decision. It was not a good decision after the fight ended later. UFC reversed that decision and gave the win to Thomas.

    Do you think the UFC would have the soccer balls to reverse this decision as well?

    I doubt it, but wouldn't be great if they did.
     
  25. TheSlipperyOne

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    Re: UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion :: September 8, London

    I doubt they would have the balls either, but Dana White definitely listens to his fans (even giving free PPV-type events after lackluster PPVs) and the amount of people on message boards saying UFC is fixed and vowing never to buy a PPV again looks immense. That looks pretty damaing to White and UFC when they are really trying to grow the brand and the sport.

    If Bisping doesn't drop down to 185 like Joke Rogan suggested then the Count shouldn't be allowed another LH until after a rematch with Hamill in the US.

    I used to be a fan of Bisping but after re-watching the fight and then listening to his trash comments towards Hamill afterwards (knowing he didn't deserve the win) I have no respect for him any longer.

    It's going to be really interesting to see what comes from this.
     

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