U20/U19 Pre-Qualifying Camp Thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Sep 3, 2018.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Who knows, maybe we'll get some rosters, media or news reports that give us a sense of what's going on down there. Since this is probably the last U20 gathering before qualifying, seems worth a thread.

    I know folks have been posting names of attendees to the U20 catchall thread and I suppose we could just wait or move that stuff there.

    My guess is that there are U20 qualifying roster candidates who will not be at this gathering. But given the unusual timing and its effects on various pro and college seasons, this camp may be unusually important.
     
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Also, I know that some folks have reported that this might include a U20/U19/Venezuela/Jamaica mini-tournament. I did see this post from Venezula's FA that, while mainly about another event, does seem to semi-confirm that.

    Junto a estos amistosos pautados en la zona asiática, otra delegación de la categoría sub-20 participará en un cuadrangular en Estados Unidos a cargo del asistente técnico César Modesto González, mientras que la selección absoluta tendrá par de encuentros amistosos en fecha FIFA ante Colombia y Panamá, dirigidos por Rafael Dudamel.​

    http://www.federacionvenezolanadefu...lista-para-afrontar-dos-amistosos-ante-qatar/

    I haven't yet seen anything from the JFF, but maybe I missed something.
     
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  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here's confirmation from the JFF saying the event starts tomorrow (and our U20s probably don't play until Friday).

    A National Under 20 squad will participate in a 2018 Invitational Tournament featuring Jamaica, Venezuela, the USA Under 19 and USA Under 20 Men's national teams September 5 - 11. The JFF was approached by US Soccer to participate in the tournament which will be held at the IMG Academy at Bradenton, Florida.

    ...

    September 7 USA Under 20 vs Jamaica - 4:30pm
    September 9 Venezuela vs Jamaica - 11:00am
    September 11 USA Under 19 vs Jamaica - 4:30pm​

    https://www.facebook.com/165414506855692/posts/2023171971079927/


     
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  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    And here's a bit more from the VFA:

    Para esta fecha FIFA, no sólo la Vinotinto absoluta tendrá roce internacional sino que también una delegación de la categoría sub-20 viajará a Estados Unidos, donde disputará un cuadrangular internacional durante los días 7, 9 y 11 de septiembre.​

    http://www.federacionvenezolanadefu...-el-torneo-de-estados-unidos-con-buen-futbol/

    This may explain why we haven't seen a roster yet (and why we may not see one for a bit).
     
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  5. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Are we swapping in Jamaica for Paraguay?
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sounds like it... sounds like a recent change too
     
  7. punintended_13

    punintended_13 Member+

    Atlanta United
    Mar 22, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...19mnt-u20-mens-invitational-venezuela-jamaica

    U.S. U-19 MNT Roster by Position
    :
    GOALKEEPERS (2): Sam Fowler (Seattle Sounders FC; Issaquah, Wash.), Johan Penaranda (University of Pittsburgh; Long Beach, N.Y.)

    DEFENDERS (6): Julian Araujo (LA Galaxy; Lompoc, Calif.), Khai Brisco (Seattle Sounders FC; Renton, Wash.), Jean-Julien Foe Nuphaus (University of California, Berkeley; San Jose, Calif.), Nathan Harriel (Chargers SC; Oldsmar, Fla.), Carlo Ritaccio (University of Akron; Westbury, N.Y.), Akil Watts (Unattached; Fort Wayne, Ind.)

    MIDFIELDERS (5): Isaac Angking (New England Revolution; Providence, R.I.), Taylor Booth (Unattached; Eden, Utah), Blaine Ferri (Unattached; Southlake, Texas), Chris Goslin (Atlanta United FC; Atlanta, Ga.), Declan McGlynn (Seattle University; Kirkland, Wash.)

    FORWARDS (6): George Acosta (Boca Juniors; Miami, Fla.), Ulysses Llanez (LA Galaxy; Lynwood, Calif.), Joshua Penn (Sockers FC; Naperville, Ill.), Jacobo Reyes (CF Monterrey; Monterrey, Mexico), Bryan Reynolds (FC Dallas; Frisco, Texas), Manuel Terrazas (Club Santos Laguna; El Paso, Texas)

    U.S. U-20 MNT Roster by Position:
    GOALKEEPERS (2): CJ Dos Santos (S.L. Benfica; Philadelphia, Pa.), Brady Scott (FC Köln; Petaluma, Calif.)

    DEFENDERS (8): Sergino Dest (AFC Ajax; Almere-Stad, Netherlands), Chris Gloster (Hannover 96; South Orange, N.J.), Jaylin Lindsay (Sporting KC; Charlotte, N.C.), Lennard Maloney (Union Berlin; Berlin, Germany), Mark McKenzie (Philadelphia Union; Bear, Del.), Manny Perez (N.C. State University; Garner, N.C.), Chris Richards (Bayern Munich; Hoover, Ala.), Sam Rogers (Seattle Sounds FC; Seattle, Wash.), Sam Vines (Charlotte Independence, Charlotte, N.C.)

    MIDFIELDERS (8): Frankie Amaya (UCLA; Santa Ana, Calif.), Christian Cappis (Unattached; Katy, Texas), Andrew Carleton (Atlanta United FC; Powder Springs, Ga.), Andres Jimenez (Envigado FC; Miami, Fla.), Alex Mendez (LA Galaxy; Los Angeles, Calif. ), Paxton Pomykal (FC Dallas; Highland Village, Texas), Brandon Servania (FC Dallas; Birmingham, Ala.), Juan Torres (K.S.C. Lokeren; Lilburn, Ga.)

    FORWARDS (4): Ayo Akinola (Toronto FC; Detroit, Mich.), Shaft Brewer Jr.(LAFC; Sacramento, Calif.), Griffin Dorsey (Indiana University; Evergreen, Col.), Sebastian Soto (Hannover 96; San Diego, Calif.)
     
  8. Runhard

    Runhard Member+

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 5, 2018
    Good to see Ferri called in for the 19s. Heard he has been in Germany and may sign soon when he turns 18s.

    Bryan Reynolds must have impressed during the recent U18 camp as he also got the call as an 01 with Llanez. They have Reynolds listed as a forward but played him as a center back a few weeks ago.

    If anyone locates a site for the streaming of the games, please post it here.
     
  9. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fontana and Real were called up from Philly but were injured.

    FYI, from what I understand, Tab likes Matt Real. Not just what he brings on the field but he likes what Real brings off the field as well (team guy, leadership, etc.)
     
  10. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    OK, based on my records, which could be incomplete....

    Ayo Akinola is the only new player in the U20 camp. He had previously been in a U19 camp.

    I have seven players getting called into a U19/U20 camp for the first time: Isaac Angking, Julian Araujo, Khai Brisco, Nathan Harriel, Carlo Ritaccio, Bryan Reynolds and Manuel Terrazas. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first US Soccer camp for Terrazas. Not sure if he's an 00 or an 01.

    Four players who previously had been a U20 call-up were "demoted" to the U19s for this camp: Taylor Booth, Chris Goslin, George Acosta and Uly Llanez. I imagine these rosters will be fairly fluid with some movement between the two camps, especially for the 00s and 01s.

    Speaking of 01s, I have (at least) five called up but it could be six depending on what year Terrazas was born: Araujo, Harriel, Booth, Llanez and Reynolds.

    Besides the 01s, three players in the U19 camp are listed as being in the Class of 2019 and haven't gone pro or matriculated to college yet: Brisco, Blaine Ferri, and Joshua Penn. Interestingly, Brisco (Sounders) is the only ones affiliated with an MLS academy.

    Four players - Christian Cappis and Alex Mendez with the 20s and Sam Fowler and Akil Watts with the 19s are supposedly done with HS but haven't gone pro or matriculated to college. Fowler signed with Washington but isn't listed on their roster. He may be taking a gap year to preserve a year of NCAA eligibility instead of sitting behind an upperclassmen.

    Frankie Amaya (UCLA, Fr.), Griffin Dorsey (Indiana, So.) and Manny Perez (NC State, So.), are the only players in the U20 camp who are currently playing college soccer. Mark McKenzie and Brandon Servania each played a year at Wake Forest and are now pros.

    Four players in the U19 camp are currently playing college ball: Jean-Julien Foe Nuphaus (California, Fr.), Declan McGlynn (Seattle Univ., Fr.), Johan Penaranda (Pittsburgh, Fr.), Carlo Ritaccio (Akron, Fr.).

    12 of the 22 U20s are 99s, 10 00s. 13 of the 19 U19s are 00s and 5 are 00s and we (I) don't know about Terazzas.

    As always, corrections and omissions welcome.
     
  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  12. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Very nice. We normally combine like terms, so let's make the 5 00s 01s.

    As a bonus, there are some nice names to work with, Terrazzas included.
     
  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Thanks.

    One other numerical tidbit.

    By my count, Tab has now looked at 62 people with the U20s and 26 more have been with just the 19s. So 88 players have gotten a chance to be evaluated in a U20/U20 cycle that isn't a year old, yet.
     
  14. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We ID'd over half (22 of 41) of the U19/U20 callups solely by social media stalking. I'm pretty sure most of the players we didn't ID simply didn't post anything or aren't on Instagram/Twitter.
     
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  15. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Wonder why Watts is listed as Unattached? There's video of him signing his contract with Mallorca a couple months ago. Haven't kept up if he's played for any of their youth teams to start the season.
     
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  16. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    What I find interesting is Llanez and Goslin demoted. I didn't think Acosta was making it anyway, so not like it matters that much. Goslin and Llanez might have their spots in jeopardy. Goslin has had a bad season, while Llanez faces a numbers crunch in attacking midfield. As a player playing up a cycle, he might find it tougher to make it.

    I'm surprised Ledezma isn't on this team, but I suspect there's a good reason for that. DC has a game this week, so thats why no Durkin. Sargent, Weah, Adams situations have already been covered. I also don't understand why no James Sands. He should be Durkin's back up this cycle, but for some reason Ramos doesn't seem to rotate what he brings. The lack of de la Fuentes call ups this cycle makes no sense to me. I'd hope he isn't considering switching to Spain's YNT's.
     
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  17. kingshark

    kingshark Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
    Ledzema is on trial with PSV. And for de la Fuentes, he has just been promoted to Juvenile A and fight for spot on the opening season, so that might explain the absence (hope so).
     
  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I'm choosing, based on nothing but what I consider my version of common sense, not to read much into the "demotions." If you want to bring in as many '99s as you can, it's logical that you'd move younger guys down to the U19s. This event lasts several days and both U.S. teams will get three matches, including one against each other. Whatever Ramos wants to look at, he should get a chance to between matches and training.
     
  19. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    It will be very interesting to see how this all shakes out. Between these players and others who are not there Ramos should be able to put together a good qualifying team. Unlike past teams my hope is that there won't be anyone selected who doesn't really belong.
     
  20. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    How long is Ledezma's trial? I thought he already had it.

    de la Fuente hasn't been called into either the U-19 or U-20 team all cycle. The lack of call ups so far this cycle isn't just about earning a spot right now with Juvenil A
     
  21. ielag

    ielag Member+

    Jul 20, 2010
    Ledezma and Mendez both turn 18 on Thursday. Neither would be eligible to play official matches in Germany or Netherlands until January.

     
  22. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Happy to see Ayo and Soto with the U20s. Doesn't seem like striker is going to be a problem for qualifying anymore. Also glad to see Araujo get called up.

    I'm concerned about Cappis being unattached. Shouldn't he be somewhere by now?

    As for Watts, I'd be surprised if listing him as unattached isn't a mistake.
     
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  23. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Speaking of Araujo, I don't see him listed on the LAG U16/17 DA roster. Oversight, or something else?
     
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  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Any word on if these games will be streamed?
     

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