U-21 Qualification

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by Area 51, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    Jota forces a save from a rare Portugal counter. The chances are less frequent now. Portugal really needed a second when it was dominating thoroughly for about 20 minutes after halftime. Now the team is tired and Poland is able to push up the field a bit and have some possession.
     
  2. trebaruna

    trebaruna Member

    Jun 13, 2017
    Los Angeles
    Whether they qualify or not , this team doesn't have the talent those of 2015 and 2017 had.
     
  3. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    It would've been interesting to see how Portugal would've played if Dalot and Joao "Jota" Filipe were healthy. Jota played both must-win matches that got Portugal to the playoff and it really missed his creativity and finishing ability while it pummeled Poland early in the second half today.
     
  4. Dan82

    Dan82 Member

    Feb 3, 2007
    The only positive thing about this loss is that maybe we will bring a full strength team to the Under 20 World Cup, having failed to qualify for the Under 21 Euro.
     
  5. portugamerifinn

    portugamerifinn Member+

    Feb 22, 2005
    Bay Area / London
    If nothing else, a match like this will show this group of players that you can't take anything for granted and you've got to be ready to play from the opening kick. They did what was supposed to be the hard work in Poland and then shit the bed within eight minutes today.
     
  6. trebaruna

    trebaruna Member

    Jun 13, 2017
    Los Angeles
    Given the quality of this squad, or the lack of it, not sure it will necessarily a good thing :/ I've watch quite a few of the qualification games and I have long been under the impression that this team is, give and take, mediocre. Rafael Leaõ is good, Jota, João Félix, João Carvalho, Joel Pereira, Iuri Medeiros aren't nothing to write home about, really.
     
  7. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    This game shows Portugals great mental failing not of the inferiority complex but of arrogance and resting on your laurels. We won 0-1 away then started the game like we had already won the tie, then we go Down and all of a sudden start playing when we have already handed victory to our opponents, how many times have we seen this?

    Congratulations Poland, we did not deserve to go through.
     
  8. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    João Félix had quite a few opportunities that he blew from excellent positions, including early on when he missed the target and would of made it 1-2. João Carvalho from the little I have seen has normally been medíocre. Joel Pereira seen some good stuff and some awful. Our previous sides had more garra too, also maybe it is time for Rui Jorge to move on?
     
  9. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
  10. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    All of the people calling for Rio Jorge to be national team manager I hope you guys understand how frivolous that suggestion was. He’s been blessed with good teams and this side had much talent within it compared to the Poles but he absolutely blew it after being 1-0 up
     
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  11. JoseEmidio

    JoseEmidio Member+

    Dec 6, 2009
    London
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Less convinced now but we Will see how he does when he manages a Liga side, we Will then see if he is another Lopetegui.
     
  12. GoodDead

    GoodDead Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Club:
    Sporting Braga
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    That's too bad considering how well all our youth have been doing. To scratch and claw to the playoff, dominate the first leg but only win by 1 just to have a nightmare first half.

    Oh well, hopefully the U20's deliver then go on to give us something for the next u21.
     
  13. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    Great point, to win euro 17s,19s and a u2o World Cup would be an incredible acheievement.
     
  14. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    I’ve never liked Rui Jorge as a manager to be honest, I would love to see Hélio Sousa take over after the u20 World Cup, I think he’s got so much potential as a National team manager and understands short knockout tournaments really well plus he’s worked with all these guys coming through over the few years. I think long term he would be a great manager for th National team
     
  15. trebaruna

    trebaruna Member

    Jun 13, 2017
    Los Angeles
    Poor Rui Jorge. I think that to be fair with him you have to look at his entire performance as the Under 21 coach. I think he's been pretty good. It's true that this premature elimination is frustrating, Portugal won't go to the Euro nor the Olympic games, but I think it's more to be credited to the lack of quality players than anything else. Next year he'll be working with the generation who won the under17 and under19 European title and I'm confident he'll do just great.
     
  16. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    did not see the game but wow Portugal spanked in holland 4-2 today
     
  17. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Leao did nothing just like in the u20 world cup
     
  18. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    Rui Jorge is a really ordinary manager, I’ve been saying for ages he underperforms with both talented squads & ordinary ones.

    A nothing manager
     
  19. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Portugal 4 -1 Norway
    how bad is Rafael Leão's 1st touch on the ball, messed up 2,3 good chances to score but for his shit 1st touch. as soon he went off we got our 3rd and 4th goals.

    Pedro Neto 2 goals and man of the match he looked really good tonight in fact 3 goal scores all from Wolves.
     
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  20. Quirky_Birky

    Quirky_Birky Member

    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Sep 15, 2004
    The Peak District, England
    I really think Neto will become a quality player, and Jota's transfer to Liverpool will give him the game time at Wolves that he needs to improve as a player. As much as I love Jota, I think Neto will outshine him before long. He's far more composed in front of goal, is quick, can play a quality pass or cross, and I honestly don't think it'll be long before he gets picked for the full National team (though I appreciate there's plenty of competition). I love watching this lad develop and have really high hopes for him..
     
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  21. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    He also had a assist on the 3rd goal b4 he was subbed off
     
  22. prodigal_mind

    prodigal_mind Member+

    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Portugal
    Jul 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Selling jota for 45 was great business. However that great business was null once you bought a 45 million scam
     
  23. HandofAbel

    HandofAbel Member

    Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jun 19, 2017
    eu estou aqui
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    3-0 win at Gibraltar.

    Holland is blowing the group apart and even if we beat them in the return leg and end up tied on pts, in highly unlikely at this point that we’d better their goal difference.
     
  24. verde-rubro

    verde-rubro Member+

    C.S.Maritimo + Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jan 15, 2005
    LONDON
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    how many go to the next stage from each group?
     
  25. HandofAbel

    HandofAbel Member

    Liverpool FC
    Portugal
    Jun 19, 2017
    eu estou aqui
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Group winners and then the best runner up (could be more than one runner up actually, the format as I read it was a bit unclear). Then the rest of the group runners up will play a home and awAy playoff to determine the rest of the qualified teams.
     

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