Tyler Adams

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by TheFalseNine, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    What do you think it is?
     
  2. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trapp is just another dime-a-dozen decent American in MLS who doesn't have the athleticism or vision to break out to the next level required of our national team. He could be useful depth in a pinch for qualifying but nothing more. There's really just this one odd poster who continuously pushes for Trapp. Perhaps non-coincidentally, he's also a big Bradley defender. Take that for what you will.
     
  3. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I take it as people have different opinions.
     
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  4. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is far too reasonable of a take for this forum.
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair those same things were said of Beckerman.
     
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  6. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Beckerman was far more dominant in MLS than WT90. He also looked good in his national team appearances, unlike WT90, who has looked weak against mediocre oppositions. With Adams and McKennie, we have two elite athletes locking down the center of the park. Perhaps it is possible that WT90 will be a CM backup, but I'm betting we will continue to develop better CMs to compete with Adams and Mckennie as the current starters.
     
  7. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    A 3-4-3 in possession with the middle four in a sort boxish formation. A 4-4-2 in defense (technically a 4-2-2-2 with the middle pair very wide sort of a squashed hexagon). Nick was playing a hybrid role. A right back in defense but not a right back in offense. The key here is that there are going to be at least two players that will have to switch positions. Not every game need have the same positions switching. In offense, Adams fits very well in to Nick's role. In defense, not so much. I don't think I would have him dropping off to the right back in defense because the dude is pressing machine and he would be wasted there.
     
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  8. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I like Bob Bradley but he did us a great disservice in not trusting Beckerman in 2010.
     
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  9. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Who are you talking about? I haven't seen anybody defending Bradley in a while here.
     
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  10. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I think he’s talking about you but doesn’t realize you don’t rate MB highly (nor do I).

    I think Pragidealist rates MB highly as an anchor
     
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  11. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Perhaps in the Panama match, but when faced with a decent opponent that actually pressed, the formation was just a 433 with the midfield trio shifted somewhat to its left.
     
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  12. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I've seen quite a few, and I'm included, that think Bradley is better than Trapp. Now most of those people dont want to see Bradley play though.
     
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  13. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Bob used a pulley central midfield; there was no position for Beckerman.
     
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  14. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    It was the wrong system then. We could have easily played with Beckerman staying at home and Bradley, Edu, etc having more freedom to go forward. Who am I kidding? Bradley is the only one who would have played the other role.
     
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  15. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    That’s exactly how we played. Beckerman never got forward.
     
  16. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Why should Bob have changed his system to accommodate a complementary player? The system was built around Donovan and Dempsey.
     
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  17. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Because M Bradley wasnt disciplined enough and Beckerman may have complimented him better. Aka, it would have simplified the roles for the two deepest midfielders.
     
  18. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    With Dempsey and Donovan in wide position, box-to-box mids were needed to cover ground so the former two could cut inside to create. Bob started a positional mid, Torres, in the Slovenia WC match; the US got over-run.

    Beckerman's eventual matriculation addressed the different needs of a different pool.
     
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  19. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    M Bradley was actually pretty good in 2010.
     
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  20. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I dont disagree, but that doesnt mean he was disciplined. I think Beckerman was a nice little player but over rated by many. I was only suggesting that playing a true #6 and freeing up Bradley may have been more effective than having two 6/8s.
     
  21. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Four years ago I would have died on seeing this group. With the talent we have today I'm excited. I want to see them against all the top teams.
     
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  22. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My historical take differs from yours. I remember personally hating the hippie, then coming to really appreciate him greatly for the things he did very well (short, quick, and accurate passes [note the Oxford comma--just learned about it yesterday on bigsoccer], tackling while keeping his feet, quick recognition and closing down of crucial spaces). And I remember him continuing to be viewed by a clear majority on BS as I had previously viewed him--a mediocre, MLS midfielder.
     
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  23. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Not his best outing, but a couple nice plays on both sides of the ball...

     
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  24. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With BB, we played a standard 4-4-2 with 2 CMs (one of Edu/Clark/Holden and Bradley).

    Then we had Clint and Donovan on the wings doing their thing.

    Jozy up top with whoever from MLS was in decent form (post Davies accident)--one of Robbie Findley or Edson Buddle.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stupid Bob Bradley not building the national team around Kyle Beckerman...
     

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