Tyler Adams at AFC Bournemouth

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  1. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I’m a biomedical scientist in the muscle area. That’s not really a thing now. Maybe someday. There are MANY scam stem cell clinics and the FDA is trying to crack down on them.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Interesting. I've talked to a lot of people encouraged by physicians to use it. But it may not be for muscle issues, even though they call it a "groin" issue. Is the knee application legit? I even had my renown ACL guy say they were mostly doing stem prp now.
     
  3. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I had an osteochondral allograft (cartilage transplant on my femur) - the bone never healed right. I had another one recently and this time took the option for stem cell treatment (something I opted not to do the previous time, instead choosing the far cheaper PRP treatment). I also had an ACL replacement prior to both of those surgeries - my doctor didn't mention stem cell or PRP option (two different treatments) for the ACL repair, only for the cartilage repair. My doctor also mentioned they sometimes do just the stem cell repair (i.e. no surgery) for minor cartilage tears (even for professional athletes) and have seen good results.
     
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  4. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Thanks for sharing. Makes me feel I should cut down on my own moaning and groaning.
     
  5. DirectK

    DirectK Member

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    Jun 27, 2018
    Ugghhhh, I just have this paranoia that in a couple years this thread is going to be 200 pages of "remember what Tyler Adams was like before he got hurt?"
     
  6. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    I didn't even share the two other procedures we did as party of this last surgery. It was pretty major work.
     
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  7. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    I guess we could all compare war stories while we wait for Adams to recover. I had my tonsils out when I was eight.
     
  8. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

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    Yeah, but I had mine out when I was ten and missed them so my doctor gave me a stem cell transplant and I got new ones.
     
  9. USSoccerNova

    USSoccerNova Member+

    Sep 28, 2005
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    I’ll see your tonsils and raise you some adenoids and a deviated septum. If this were war, my upper respiratory tract would be the proud recipient of a Purple Heart and a couple of oak leaf clusters.
    #BigSoccerStreetCred
     
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  10. ArsenalMetro

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    I had my hand run over by an ice skate once and almost lost a finger. How's that one fit in here?
     
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  11. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    iIt's a scam. There is no clinical data to show efficacy in muscle. I am sorry to say that because I wish it was real. Yes, I think there is some clinical data showing some benefit of "stem cells" for torn cartilage in the meniscus of the knee. That is a specific application where the underlying biology is simpler and might be working.
     
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  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Interesting. I wonder if what they are calling a "groin" issue is a hip/joint application involving cartilage. Do they use it for hip cartilage issues as well? I'll have to look around and see if I can find out what the hockey guy was talking about.
     
  13. AngelaMerkin

    AngelaMerkin Member+

    Dec 2, 2005
    dude has one injury and people start speculating he's the next Jo'B... y'all need this silly season over so you can stop hyperventilating haha
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Perhaps you should focus on your own health, Angela. You're among friends - tell us what's been going on.
     
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  15. frankburgers

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    woof
     
  16. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
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    It’s a long-ass injury, though. Makes me nervous.
     
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  17. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    To be far the lack of clinical data doesn't mean it isn't working.
     
  18. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Well, if that's the case, sign me up for a free sample.
     
  19. mattjo

    mattjo Member+

    Feb 3, 2001
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    I'll send you some over the internet if you can provide me your address, phone number, SSN, and a list of your fears... if it looks like silly putty in a 1980s egg... don't be alarmed.
     
  20. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

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    I got hit on the head by a shotput at track practice. Only minor brian damblage...
     
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  21. kruck

    kruck Member+

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    I had a client one time who had taken off his right index finger with a table saw.

    He was a strange guy.

    I'll just associate you with that person from now on and forever.

    So, you got that going for you.
     
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  22. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Whatever makes me memorable besides being the occasional condescending dick on here. :p
     
  23. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    A clinical trial is the only way to know it isn't BS. Beware of this kind of stuff because it can kill you. For example:
    https://leapsmag.com/a-star-surgeon...atients-and-his-whistleblowers-were-punished/
    my strong advice: stay the F away from things not proven clinically. There are too many unscrupulous people who will take your money and might kill you.
     
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  24. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

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    I generally agree but the lack of a clinical trial doesn't mean that it is BS, if you know what I mean.
     
  25. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
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    Sign me up for experimental laparoscopic cardiology. Sorry, couldn’t resist the obscure Mipso reference. Maybe the only song ever with those two words in it.
     

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