Tuesday 12 Mar 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
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    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    Los Angeles Football Club 4, Portland Timbers 1 | 2019 MLS Match Recap
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...lub-4-portland-timbers-1-2019-mls-match-recap

    LAFC routs Timbers 4-1 for second win in a row to open MLS season

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-lafc-20190310-story.html

    MLS player ejected after he picks up a second yellow card for flicking opponent's ear

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...cted-after-flicking-opponents-ear/3126763002/

    LAFC top MLS Power Rankings but Minnesota United, Columbus Crew SC are rising fast

    http://www.espn.com/soccer/major-le...esota-united-columbus-crew-sc-are-rising-fast

    The MLS XI, Week 2: Slow Starts for MLS Cup Finalists; Teens, GKs Show Their Chops
    https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/03/11/mls-week-2-fc-cincinnati-steffen-sounders-lafc-minnesota

    Armchair Analyst: All 24 teams in review | Week 2 Analysis
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/03/10/armchair-analyst-all-24-teams-review-week-2-analysis

    FC Cincinnati celebrate taking their first-ever MLS point in Atlanta
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...ate-taking-their-first-ever-mls-point-atlanta

    Atlanta United react to home-crowd boos ... just two games into MLS season
    https://www.11alive.com/video/sport...eason/85-87528389-b735-41ef-9241-83be62e52801

    Help wanted: NYCFC still looking for another striker
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/help-wanted-nycfc-still-looking-for-another-striker/

    How much have the New England Revolution changed?
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/new-england-revolution/revolution-friedel-changes-takeawaways/

    Sporting Kansas City's Barath, Nemeth called by Hungarian national team
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...-barath-nemeth-called-hungarian-national-team

    FloSports streaming interruptions frustrate viewers during debut D.C. United match
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/dc-united/flosports-suffers-outages-in-debut/

    Arsenal transfer news: Gedion Zelalem joins Sporting KC
    https://www.goal.com/en/news/arsenal-midfielder-zelalem-joins-sporting-kc-on-free/njdzzh6uul931gzpdto8iznzz

    Why the Colorado Rapids paid $1.7 million to cut Shkëlzen Gashi — and why he knew it was coming
    https://www.denverpost.com/2019/03/11/colorado-shkelzen-gashi/

    Commissioner calls support for Major League Soccer in St. Louis 'remarkable'
    https://www.stltoday.com/sports/soc...cle_dda8b616-db88-5abb-b716-bc0b04731fef.html
     
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  2. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

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    Well, technically that only deals withe waving off the goal for offside, it doesn't actually speak to the PK/red card decision (though it was correct).
     
  4. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
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    It kinda hints at it. It just doesn't go into detail about WHY it's deliberate handling. And it answers (at least as far as PRO is concerned) the question about deliberate handling being considered a deliberate play that resets offside.
     
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  5. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

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  6. hipityhop

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    Jan 10, 1999
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  7. Adiaga_2

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    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
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    Kansas City Wizards
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    #7 Adiaga_2, Mar 12, 2019
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    But Rossi is hardly the only player that behaves that way in soccer. There are far too many players that have ruined the sport for potential fans by acting like that. Even for die-hard fans like myself I find it to be the single biggest on-field blemish in the game.
     
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  8. don gagliardi

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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    san jose
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  9. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    This. ^ The rampant faking of injuries or exaggerating of supposed incidents sickens me and brings down our game's esteem.
     
  10. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
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    Ive got Chara in that fight.
     
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  11. mbar

    mbar Member+

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    Los Angeles, CA
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    #11 mbar, Mar 12, 2019
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    LAFC is really consistently a team that dives as much as any team I've ever seen in MLS ever since it's existence. Rossi is one of their worst offenders. Interestingly it's LAFC going into every match that is complaining in advance about all the fouling they claim (half of them dives) they are receiving effectively working the referees in advance. It's really something and it's been very effective for them so far. [deleted by mod — politics]

    Hopefully referees will stop giving LAFC the benefit of the doubt and hopefully there are more retroactive yellows and fines for the diving that is going on.
     
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  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    #12 Yoshou, Mar 12, 2019
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    So.. Why are we focusing just on Rossi and not the dumb ass that decided to make an above the shoulder contact, off the ball foul? Chara's been doing that crap since he joined the league and this is one of the few times that he actually got caught and people are acting like it is Rossi that is hurting the sport.
     
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  13. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
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    Maybe if there was somebody to punish such acts. Oh there is, but they don't do anything. Start handing out yellow cards and after a few weeks when the games end with 7-8 players on each team maybe the players will get a hint.
     
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  14. FlapJack

    FlapJack Member+

    Mar 3, 2006
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    Seems like the call could/should be yellow card to both. Punish hacker and embellishment with intent to deceive referee.
     
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  15. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

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    Oswego, Illinois
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    Yeah Chara deserved a yellow, a dumbass move on his part considering he was already on a yellow. I hope he enjoys his none paid vacation.
     
  16. Adiaga_2

    Adiaga_2 Member

    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
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    That's right, man - - every once in a while you gotta drop the mittens and put a fella on your dance card.
     
  17. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    Talk about diving always tends to devolve in that way. It's always "Diving ZOMG CHEATING!!!" as if nobody else was cheating, as if cheap shots aren't cheating, as if time-wasting wasn't cheating, as if berating a ref over a foul you obviously committed wasn't cheating, etc.
     
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  18. Adiaga_2

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    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
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    United States
    One could argue that while the other examples you mention are "cheating", they are all pretty obvious and transparent.

    Diving, on the other hand, is a blatant attempt at dishonesty (at least) or out right fabrication. For me personally it's worse.
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    Chara assaulted Rossi. If it happened on the street, he could press criminal charges, or at least seek a civil restraining order. Maybe he should forego the diving and do just that. Or should Rossi have retaliated in kind?

    I don't like diving, either (and I'm no fan of LAFC), but what Chara did was worse. Rossi merely called attention to something that might otherwise have been overlooked, without engaging in violence or invoking the justice system.
     
  20. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
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    Portland Timbers
    Ear flicking is assault now?
     
  21. Adiaga_2

    Adiaga_2 Member

    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That in no way changes my point about what is obviously intentional deceit on the part of Rossi (or any other player that dives).

    And it's kind of a ridiculous comparison anyway. If someone on the street runs up to me and kicks me in the shin then that's grounds for pressing assault charges also. But it's perfectly acceptable on the soccer field, right?

    Rossi needs to either learn to rely on VAR or grow a pair.
     
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  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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  23. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    It is?
     
  24. Adiaga_2

    Adiaga_2 Member

    St. Louis City SC
    Aug 30, 2007
    St. Louis
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    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Happens in every game.
     
  25. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dude.. Chara's cheap shot was off the ball. If Rossi hadn't gone down, it wouldn't have been obvious, nor would it have been transparent. He was doing it because he thought he could get away with it and/or get a reaction from Rossi and maybe get Rossi a card or ejected.
     
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