Trump vs. Clinton: The General Election Thread

Discussion in 'Elections' started by JohnR, May 4, 2016.

  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
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    795887989838598144 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  2. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

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    I always realized it was an "eccentric entertainer, likely to be Michael Jackson-y (someone had mentioned it immediately elsewhere)" outfit. Removed from that context and put in a political rally one, though...

    ...in other words, chuckle-cringe-worthy, no more than an awkward wave.
     
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  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
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    OK.

    Can't say as I ever paid much attention to Michael Jackson.

    Now if she'd worn Janis Joplin's elephant bells, or Gram Parson's Nudie suit...
     
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  4. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
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    I think she's done the latter before.

    And I read the first one as "elephant balls", which was...an interesting image.
     
  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
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    First of all - no personal attacks please.

    Second of all, on the topic of public discourse - Hillary has run a much more respectful campaign which was the topic he was discussing. You can certainly argue that Liberals know how to vet the crap out of candidates in ways that leave Republicans in the dust - and you can argue that you think the down and dirty side of politics is just as bad as blatant and offensive disrespect with little respect to facts, but I think these are actually two different things.

    No one is to blame for Trump's awfulness except himself and the people who support that.

    You don't have to like Hillary or believe like I do that she's not the devil, but I'm certainly not all sunshine about my candidate. It's just that on the topic of respectfulness she's light years ahead. Neither she nor her surrogates engage in a lot of the crap that Trump does.
     
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  6. superdave

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  7. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

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    When will we know when the Russians have hacked the election?
     
  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    When Gary Johnson wins.
     
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  9. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
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    Correct. I make no claims about Hillary's private dealings. Maybe she tortures small children, skins them, and eats them. All I say is that if an article is about public discourse, and it equates Hillary with Donald Trump, that is bogus.
     
  10. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Johnson had no respect for the norms of the "peculiar institution." Chinn often sat at table as his mate, and guests who couldn't handle that were welcome to leave. On the other hand when the first of his later mates rejected him for another, he sold her. Whether that's enlightened, in that he accepted that she could prefer another, or vengeful, at this distance is beyond me.

    But that's not what is really interesting about him; he's among the most important tacticians in global history, right up there with Epaminondas and Khalid, as the tactics of his mounted riflemen were the ancestor to those of Union cavalry in the Civil War and eventually mechanized infantry in WWII.

    Richard M Johnson was the grandfather of the blitzkrieg.

    "Rumpsey Dumpsey, Rumpsey Dumpsey
    Colonel Johnson kilt Tecumseh!" (Campaign slogan)
     
  11. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Jesus. I think I prefer Make America Great Again.
    The mentality of the time is just impossible for us to fathom. "Peculiar" institution was a massive, massive understatement.
     
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  12. gmonn

    gmonn Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    It's not that mysterious. It's the depravity of a total lack of PC. ISIS and their sex slaves, it's happening right now.
     
  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    ????

    Did you read the section I clipped?
     
  14. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
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    Hillary's biggest endorsement.

     
  15. Iranian Monitor

    Iranian Monitor Member+

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    I think what Trump said about the Clintons in that interview isn't far off the mark, including not just the praise but also the part about her being given an 'agenda'. At least, it matches my perception of the Clintons. Which is why, as critical of her foreign policy agenda as I am, I have not been really interested in the mud slinging and the hunt for scandals against her. The real issue about Hillary to me is the (IMO criminal) foreign policy agenda she will be pursuing, and the way politics works in America. The rest of the so-called scandals and criticisms are basically a distraction.
     
  16. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    It's not making you stupid... it's just sucking the intelligence out of you.

    Different thing!
     
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