Trump Presidency Tweets Too

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  1. usscouse

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    Do they lie.
     
  2. xtomx

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    Mislead.
     
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  3. usscouse

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    They're definitely left leaning but usually have a link to the original story. If anyone is mislead then they're not reading it all.
     
  4. dapip

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    And it didn't cost them $130k!!



    Good thing he got bone spurs and no kidney stones..



    Douche-Bank:

     
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  5. usscouse

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    Here's a leader from their latest post, complete with credits and link to the original story.
    Tell me where it's wrong or misleading.

    Ignoring SCOTUS, Trump expected to claim unilateral power to add citizenship question to Census by executive action
    Published 34 mins ago on July 11, 2019
    By David Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement
     
  6. soccernutter

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    They are click bait
     
  7. Q*bert Jones III

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    I get the feeling that the administration is testing this not because they care so much about the actual question, but rather because they want to see what happens when they just straight up ignore the Supreme Court.
     
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  8. dapip

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    Makes Sense...



    Party Time:

     
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  9. JohnR

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    That is a male standing to the left of Trump and Epstein. Also, while the party looks to have been sordid, those are clearly adult women.
     
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  10. soccernutter

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    Case in point - click bait.
    Individual One is not ignoring SCOTUS. He is trying to circumvent the SCOTUS ruling. If he were ignoring the SCOTUS ruling, he would have the Census printed with the question already added.

    He is also not claiming unilateral power. He trying to use an executive order for the specific purpose to add the citizenship question. If he were claiming unilateral power, we would be referring to the first part, his ignoring the SCOTOS ruling. The executive order aspect would be not be relevant..
     
  11. soccernutter

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    He is not ignoring, he is fighting. As I said above, if he really were ignoring, he would be printing the Census with the question already added.
     
  12. ceezmad

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    Illigal vs undocumented worker.

    Both are "accurate", both can be used in a way to make a point.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/raw-story/

    According to this, their accuracy is "mixed"

    A half truth and an unproven are not bad, now they do little original content, so as a percentage of original I am not sure if it is higher or lower than "non-bias" sources. 'Mixed' score seems harsh.

    according to that website, they do get a better "grade" than the right wing website they were created to contradict, the drudge report. Drudge has multiple false and pants on fire (they list just a few below).

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drudge-report/
     
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  13. Hayaka

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    I think he's just trying to keep it in the news. By doing so he continues to scare immigrants into not filling out the census form, which is the primary point.

    It's also red meat for his voters, which I'm sure is never far from his thoughts.
     
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  14. usscouse

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    Click bait didn't answer the question. Nobody else had this story up and it's definitely relevant. Or tell me why it's not or why it's wrong.
    So far click bait and It's shit doesn't cut it other than to reflect your attitude towards it.
    Me, I'll continue to use that site among several others I check daily.
    Or I could just go to Fox News Tv.
     
  15. usscouse

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    I try and stay away from the added click bait! Story's. how to have a bigger dick in 3weeks. Or you too can have bigger breasts. :)

    They do publish newsworthy articles along with their sources.
     
  16. ceezmad

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    More outlets have the story.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...-2-of-them-and-28-girls/ar-AAE6CRl?li=AAgfIYZ

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/trump-and-epstein-and-28-girls-new-york-times

    Those outlets clarify the source.

    one story goes on farther.


    BTW, the original NY times report did not come up (or I missed it) in my quick google search.
     
  17. dapip

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    #13542 dapip, Jul 11, 2019
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    Soooo...

    The Left Media has to go through Purity Tests, while in general terms it is not inaccurate an rather trust-worthy...

    Right Wing media can publish Set Rich or Pizza Gate or Jade Helm and their followers will take it at their word...
     
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  18. soccernutter

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    As I said
    It also give sensational headlines. It is not alone, to be fair, but I put it in the category of the Daily Mail or New York Post. Both feed into our desire to want sensationalism.

    You keep using it, that is your choice. And I'll keep calling it shit, but that is what I think it is. And it is not an indictment on you, it is the source.
     
  19. soccernutter

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    Exactly. When we self sensor, and expect our side to be more accurate, it makes us better. It means we don't get sucked into the Seth Rich or PizzaGate or Jade Helm holes.
     
  20. dapip

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    Racist Fractions work differently apparently:

     
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  21. dapip

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    But that's the thing, as a general rule, Left of the spectrum sites tend to be more accurate by a mile. The information in ussscouse's post was correct but you are questioning the source, basically because at times they embellish the headlines.


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    As long as no one posts from the bottom red rectangle, I am Ok with the information provided, but as we have discussed in the media thread, even those organizations at the top of the green quadrant have shown a bias towards republican and establishment point of views, so in general terms, one should be careful with almost any time of information.

    Personally speaking, I think that Rawstory is a good agregator for some news that fly under the radar, and also for social media reactions, and you usually can find the actual source rather easily. All in all, I do think that chastising a poster for not triple checking a rather safe source is uncalled for.
     
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  22. ceezmad

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    So going by the chart you posted, you would trust a Drudge report story?
     
  23. rslfanboy

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    The box steps up. CNN is the lowest reliable source.

    Interesting that Mother Jones is above the line. I guess that their quality pieces outweigh the drivel that pops up often.
     
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  24. dapip

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    Anything to the right of The Economist in Yellow, Orange or Red quadrants should be looked at with extreme distrust. Anything bellow Yellow on the left I'd take with a grain of salt. That's where I'd place Rawstory.
     
  25. ceezmad

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    I think the drudge should be red, but the legend does warn about orange and red.

    For Yellow they do say fair interpretation of the news, so technically it would be trustworthy but with perhaps bias language.

    One thing people should take into account is Opinion pages vs regular content.

    The Christian science monitor news section is top notch, the opinion articles, not so much.
     

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