Transfer Thread 2020/2021

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  1. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Which was why it was the perfect time to sign him. His potential is clear and it would have been a bargain.
    Bayern could have had Werner any time they wanted. I think Lewandowski is just too good at he moment and Hudson-Odoi is still their number one target for the winger. Whilst they are still trying to get Werner, they have no spot open to him. Bayern is his first choice, but he will have to sit on the bench.

    Werner seems to want to go to a top club and be given assurance he will be the main striker. Everything at the moment is still in the air, hence why Leipzig have extended the deadline.

    Realistically Barca, Madrid, City, PSG, Tottenham, Atletico and United won't be interested. Chelsea might, Liverpool possibly are and maybe Juventus depending on who they lose.

    Chelsea probably won't go in for him.

    So he has 4 realistic options Bayern (to possibly sit on the bench), Liverpool (to possibly sit on the bench), Dortmund (who he does not consider good enough) or resign with Leipzig.
     
  2. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Completely agree, but Im speaking solely about German young stars. Its hard to win over the hearts of younger German stars when it seems that every single one of them want to go play for Bayern than us. Of course we have a great fan base as we draw more than anyone in the BL, but Im speaking of where younger German players want to always go play for some reason. Rarely do you hear someone say they want to come play here.

    We will get players like Sancho et al from time to time but I feel we still need good young Germans as well for the brand. After all we are German team. Not to mention, we have to have so many German players on the team. It wont help us for Bayern to snap up all the good young ones and leave us with scraps.
     
  3. TimBenneth

    TimBenneth Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    Uruguay
    May 10, 2017
    I'de love to see Tammy Abraham given serious consideration ... Chelsea is a mess of a football club and have let some gems go over the years. I wouldn't b surprised if Tammy was another come summer.
     
  4. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Bayern are desperately looking for Robbery replacements. Which means they'll sign more players than they need. They haven't guaranteed Werner anything so it's no wonder he hasn't signed a precontract with them. It's disappointing that he would rather stay loyal to RB than sign with BVB. I do think a title win may alter that opinion.

    Our club so needs to set an example by not signing crap players like Toprak and Wolf. While top players want to play with others of similar calibre, they also don't want to be surrounded by dead weight.
     
  5. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    I have seen a lot of him. He is a talent, but he is a long way from being good enough for Dortmund. It would be a bad move for him and for the club. He is similar level to Hofmann when he came through. In time he might be a good Gladbach level player, but he needs to be at a lower club and develop.

    Crystal Palace is the sort of club he should go to.
     
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  6. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    First thing that must be done this summer is get rid of Toprak.
     
  7. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    And get a real backup for Reus which means end the Gotze experiment.
    But also more importantly get a left back and a striker, and sign Hakimi!
     
  8. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    We need a left winger. Gotze is not backup for Reus. The backup for Reus is Philipp, but Favre chose to 4-3-3, which was a big mistake. We need a

    1st choice striker
    1st choice left back
    1st choice left winger.

    Then possibly a first choice CM.
     
  9. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    That's the problem. Gotze is not even good enough in Favre's eyes to be Reus' backup, even though many are calling for him to play there AND we don't have another player who is a clear backup to Reus.
     
  10. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    I would prioritize the full back search.

    Striker-wise we should give more playing time and confidence to Paco and find a good backup for him.

    Left wing, same thing, it would help, but if we dont find a good replacement, or a young player then Guerreiro works well with the current squad.

    But it would really help to get a backup for Reus.
     
  11. eaglespark

    eaglespark Member+

    Apr 9, 2015
    Club:
    Crystal Palace FC
    Gotze hasn't got the legs to play there, except for a game where we are dominating easily.

    For me the answer was to get real quality upfront and on the wing, so we don't rely on Reus as much.

    If we had a quality striker would pace, then Tottenham's back 3 would have been scared and dropped back. This would have given more space in the middle. A good left winger and Tottenham can't block off all the passing lanes to Sancho.

    Quality in other areas means we wouldn't rely on Reus as much.
     
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  12. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    theres no way that even healthy we are winning next match 3-0 or whatever...

    Im glad that this is over. ALl i care about is the Bundesliga... screw the rest.
     
  13. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #763 Scheherazade, Feb 13, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2019
    Could have used Kagawa as a creative midfield bench option to play 4231.

    Too many wingers like Pulisic Philipp Larsen who cannot come on and create anything, they are good at making runs but what good is that if nobody can find them with a pass when Sancho our only creative player on the field gets doubled? Guerreiro and Reus are the only other creative players. Sancho and Guerreiro can take players on and are wasted centrally. With Gotze playing FW and Reus injured and we have no other 10 apart from Kagawa who we allowed to go to Besiktas. Shame.
     
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  14. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    so we got all this money for pulisic and kept him and did nothing with it..

    we got what we deserved by not getting help up front. We knew we were running Reus into the ground and had no real help for him. Options were out there. What did we expect when ran out the same players who did nothing when we ran them out there earlier in the season.

    Creative midfielders arent cheap and we should have gotten one with the money we spent. Such is life, we didnt and we will have to fight for everything we have to hold on to the BL.. Im not sure we can. But we arent dead..

    screw this CL crap. Just win the BL and take that home. Hell start every youth player we have next match in the CL for all I care. Just win the damn BL.
     
  15. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Was there any quality creative midfielder available on the market who we could immediately buy with the Pulisic money? Other than Kagawa no other big club wants to let go of any player who can contribute one goal or one assist. Even a bench player like Pulisic is not allowed to leave midway.

    Piatek was a name thrown around for striker but it takes a lot to convince a player to move league to a new country midway when he just made a breakthrough in Italy and is competing for top scorer
     
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  16. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    thats a fair point. Sometimes you have to overpay for what you need and what you want though. I would gladly have spent a bit more than what we got from CP and put in extra for a CAM or a Striker who can help us finish. Seems finishing is a problem we suffer from.
     
  17. astrophyz

    astrophyz Member

    Sep 23, 2016
    Boston, USA
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Egypt
    Ozil was at odds with his team, it seemed. He would have been cheaper than his real price, and probably within our reach. Not sure if we could agree with him on wages though. But I still see BVB and him as a good fit.
     
  18. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    It’s annoying how many blatant failures the clubs management makes in the transfer market. Overspending on mediocre and often unneeded players whilst always taking too long to address key weaknesses. This is on top of signing some obvious duds like Castro, Rode and Toprak who everyone could see would add nothing. It is possible to operate on this sort of budget and still be far stronger, you just need to be smarter.

    Until the BVB management stops making so many errors in recruitment the club will struggle to progress.
     
  19. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    I agree, his creativity would help.
     
  20. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Born and bred in Gelsenkirchen. He sounds like he wants to fight for his place at Arsenal and who wouldnt if they are on 350 grand a week.

    Speaking of the Piatek and Werner hype, surprised none of you have mentioned Jovic who will be snapped up soon. Compared to Werner Jovic is the more allrounded striker and better fit for a club that doesnt want to play counterattack but his agent will have been talking to clubs richer than Dortmund already.
     
  21. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    This is an understatement. Our most expensive signing to date is a flop. The year he arrived, we signed 8 players in total to replace Hummels, Miki and Gundogan. From that 8 the only sporting success so far has been Raphael Gurreiro. Gotze is the only other remnant from that bunch.

    The state of this club is a joke. Piszek has not been replaced in almost 10 years. Subotics time was up in 2013 but the club's working on his replacement for 6 years now. Patrick Owomoyelas replacement never arrived so we got stuck with Schmelzer.

    In CM my understanding was that Delaney would be an option for Witsel, not play next tor him. It's be smarter to play Weigl instead. Bottom line is Gundogan was never replaced.

    We forget other extremely expensive mistakes like Yarmolenko, Immobile, Amoroso.

    Oh and let's not forget that our second most expensive signing is Diallo and he's a disaster at the moment.
     
  22. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    I sincerely hope Wolf can be successfully turned into Piszczek's replacement, otherwise he'll join the list of flops.
     
  23. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade Member

    Jun 4, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    #773 Scheherazade, Feb 17, 2019
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2019
    He cost a dime so it doesnt matter. I thought we signed Wolf to flip him for 2x.

    Dahoud was Gundogans replacement. Not sure if he has improved after joining the club. Gundogan took one season to get going but Dahoud has not kicked into gear in the same way. LF plays Delaney next to Witsel by choice. Weigl struggled against Frankfurt and Bayern and Dahoud blows hot and cold.


    Amoroso doesnt belong there. Gotze and Schurrle do. Amoroso was top goalscorer in 2002 when BVB won the Bundesliga. He was extremely expensive but one of Brazils best striker prospects before his injuries during the Ronaldo Romario Ronaldinho era. If prime Amoroso was playing now he would be Brazil's first choice over Jesus.

    All clubs have expensive flops. Coutinho Renato Sanches Alexis Sanchez Morata Mangala Bony Kaka Lukaku Cuadrado Torres? We got rid of Immobile and Yarmolenko fast before their value dropped which made the most out of a calculated risk.

    Signing a player who plays well at another club or league has inherent risks. It may not work out, nobody knows if Piatek would flop in Germany like Immobile if we signed him from Genoa. Anyone who wanted Dortmund to sign Piatek has to understand that our club is more cautious about Serie A strikers after Immobiles saga.

    Diallo was solid until he got injured, started a few games at left back and became erratic. Same case as Ginter.
     
  24. BVBFNM

    BVBFNM Member+

    Apr 3, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    It's a real shame Ginter couldn't make his mark on the team, and rather than nurturing him as Hummels' natural replacement, the tactical genius Tuchel used his shaky form as an excuse to push him away from the club just so he could get his dream CB Toprak.

    Seriously, fvck Tuchel.
     
  25. bvbSlash

    bvbSlash Member+

    Jan 7, 2014
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    He is one of the best coaches in the world. But he's awful at recruitment; apart from Dembele and Gurreiro he bought nobody useful. The management should have stepped in and prevented him from buying expensive duds. Then again Zorc has bought crap before and after TT. In fact even while he was in office, Zorc went and bought Isak who hasn't turned into anything worthwhile.
     

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