Toulon 2019

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by LGRod, Apr 26, 2019.

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  1. Atlas 51

    Atlas 51 Member

    Oct 25, 2015
    Tarzana
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    White privilege at it's finest.
     
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  2. El_Huero

    El_Huero Member+

    Dec 21, 2009
    EduarDitto "The Pelé of Anal"
    Club:
    CDSC Cruz Azul
    Or just pure nepostism
     
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  3. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    30 minutes into the first half vs Japan and it's been a solid game thus far from both teams. Physical and fast paced.

    Probably the best stretch Mexico has put together in this tournament so far since Bahrain was really not much of an opponent.

    Carlos Vargas and Jonathan Gonzalez would've made this team infinitely better.
     
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  4. sowrong

    sowrong Member+

    Aug 20, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mexico takes lead in 50th minute
     
  5. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Mexico scores early in the second half.

    Hard to argue that Mexico hasn't been the better team.

    Nice goal by Godinez.
     
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  6. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Eduardo Aguirre puts Mexico up 2-1 in the dying minutes.

    Good reaction by Mexico after Japan equalized on a great play.
     
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  7. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Japan equalize a few minutes later!

    Terrible read on an aerial ball from Govea that leaves the Japanese forward 1v1 with Hernandez and he slots it home.
     
  8. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    Club Deportivo Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    2-2, we going to penalties
     
  9. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    Club Deportivo Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Mozo fails his penalty, so we are eliminated. Shame they couldn't control the match in those last minutes.

    At least Brazil won't destroy us
     
  10. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Japan wins on PKs
     
  11. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    Fuera Lozano!
     
  12. Regulus Tera

    Regulus Tera Member+

    Club Deportivo Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Sep 10, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Kinda early to say this? I feel like both goals were more the product of individual mistakes than anything else.
     
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  13. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    Typical Mexico. Have their best game of the tournament, have the final in hand, make a dumb defensive mistake and lose in a PK shootout.
     
  14. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    Four games, and couldn’t score more than two goals, clearly a fraud.
     
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  15. LaMascara

    LaMascara Member+

    Apr 11, 2013
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    With forwards like that who would.
     
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  16. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Four games is a decent sample size to draw some conclusions.

    I'll start by saying that while I don't mind Pepe Hernandez, it's concerning that you have a physically gifted goalkeeper on the bench like Jurado and Lozano played it safe by keeping Hernandez in goal all tournament long. During the penalty shootout, Hernandez dove exactly once and his other attempts were laughable, to say the least.

    The strongest part of the defense were the fullbacks. Mozo and Arteaga both had more than decent tournaments. Bit of a contrast with last year's tournament where Arteaga operated more as a wingback than as a fullback and this time around, it was Mozo who was running up and down the wing. The Centerbacks were average, at best. Neither one seems to have much of a future with the National Team above this level as evidenced by their lack of composure and constant penchant for booting the ball out of bounds any time they felt pressured. Again, think back to last year with Vargas and Montes and how smoothly they dribbled themselves out of pressure or stepped into the midfield to anticipate plays and break them up before they even unfolded.

    The midfield was incredibly average and that is not a compliment. Erick Aguirre and Joaquin Esquivel, while very good technically, provided little in the way of support in the attack. Lots of horizontal passes and a clear directive to constantly slow the pace of the game down.......which is exactly the way the game is played in the youth divisions in LigaMX. Yrizar was, for my money, the worst player for Mexico in this tournament. A guy with his size and speed rarely threatened any of the opponents. He seemed to be just another body out there covering space. Torres was the brightest spot but he had little in the way of support since Arteaga stayed further back and Erick Aguirre rarely seemed to be interested in releasing him into space with quicker touches behind the opponent's defense. Having a guy like Marcel Ruiz on the bench that thrives on finding gaps of space in the midfield to exploit his vertical instincts wasn't brought on at any point in this tournament. Sebastian Cordova was a mixed bag for me. He played further forward than he's used to with America but didn't seem to combine all that well with any of the forwards and his best moments came when he dropped deeper and linked up with Aguirre to circulate the ball in the attacking third. Still, as far as the wingers go, they're a clear step down from what we saw last year with Alvarado (who had a so-so tournament), Antuna and Lainez (even though Lainez played more of a free role).

    Up top, it's hard to say much about the forwards. Godinez and Edu Aguirre were the best of the bunch but Cisneros barely played so it's hard to judge him.

    Lozano set out a pretty standard 4-4-2 that was really a 4-2-3-1 with Cordova essentially playing behind Aguirre/Godinez/ Cisneros. Lozano's team was a carbon copy of what we have seen with the youth teams over the last few years. Central Midfielders that, either by choice or design, rarely step into the attacking third and seem to be tactically rigid. The attack comes from the wings with fullbacks heavily involved in chance creation. Goals are usually scored during set pieces. Very few instances of verticality in the midfield and/or combination play to release attackers into space with any sort of advantage.

    All in all he'll get a pat on the back for reaching the semis but he has barely moved the needle for me as far his tactical capabilities go.
     
  17. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Best player in the tourney for me was Mozo. Sucks that he was the one to miss the PK, but I think he could legitimately challenge for a spot on the NT as of today, given our depth, or lack thereof, in his position.

    Biggest letdown was Cordova. Don’t think he had the impact we were anticipating, and his troubles translated into a very static offense imo.

    Can’t even characterize Aguirre and Yrizar as letdowns. They shouldn’t even be on the team.

    Marcel Ruiz should’ve had more minutes.
     
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  18. Blue_Demon

    Blue_Demon Member+

    Aug 20, 2006
    TX
    Club:
    Club León
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Game against Ireland ends in a 0-0 tie. Mexico wins in the shootout 4-3.
     
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  19. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund

    Sad he wasn't the starter the whole tournament.
     
  20. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund


     
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  21. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
     
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  22. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Jurado balled out?

    What a surprise....said nobody in this thread.
     
  23. fateswarning189

    Jan 27, 2016
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I completely forgot he was on the roster. What a no brainer to have him play right?
     
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  24. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Post-Copa Oro, expect Jurado to get some starts under Tata Martino

    The guy has excellent qualities and I can see him having more success than Memo
     
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