Top Free Kick Takers of All-Time

Discussion in 'Players & Legends' started by Lucas..., Jan 9, 2013.

  1. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Lucas Gomes

    Do you have a video of this goal?
    03/09/1988 Napoli 1 x 0 Bologna - NO FK

    I heard it was a spectacular one.
     
  2. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
     
    Once, PDG1978 and PuckVanHeel repped this.
  3. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    English Premier League (1992-2012) - Top 10 Direct Free Kick Scorers:
    1 BECKHAM, David 264 games / 19 goals
    2 LE TISSIER, Matthew 270 games / 16 goals
    3 SHEARER, Alan 441 games / 13 goals
    4 HENRY, Thierry 258 games / 12 goals
    5 ZOLA, Gianfranco 224 games / 12 goals
    6 RONALDO, Cristiano 196 games / 11 goals
    7 ROBERT, Laurent 150 games / 11 goals
    8 SOLANO, Nolberto 302 games / 10 goals
    9 PEDERSEN, Morten G 260 games / 10 goals
    10 HARTE, Ian 221 games / 10 goals

    Sources:
    20 Years of the English Premier League - A Statistical and Informational Account (by @ENB Sports (Aaron Nielsen)
     
  4. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Sorry for asking again but do you know now how many FKs and PKs Pelé scored? Esp. for Brazil.
     
  5. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Those 7 goals also includes one in an unofficial game right? If I count right, he had according to the links you posted 6 FKs in official games, 12 PKs in official games and 52 goals in total for Brazil (72 games).
    [I always thought he had 11 PK goals for Brazil but it seems I was wrong]

    http://www.ziconarede.com.br/znrpub/variedade/cadgols/iglista_jogos.php?OP=46

    The unnoficial FK is the one in 1978 against Carioca selection.
    http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/zico-intlg.html
     
  6. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    I believe so. Of all the thread, he was the one who I didn't research, just published.
    I am to review the numbers Zico, all ... to see which goals are official.

    I found only 2 PK, including posted some pages ago. FK not know yet...
     
  7. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Maradona - FKs in Barcelona:
    10/04/1983 Barcelona 2 x 3 Athletic Bilbao - Liga
    13/04/1983 Barcelona 3 x 0 Athletic Bilbao - Copa del Rey
    22/06/1983 Barcelona 5 x 2 Atlético Madrid - Copa de la Liga
    15/04/1984 Barcelona 2 x 0 Salamanca - Liga

    I could not get information / videos about these games:
    15/09/1982 Barcelona 8 x 0 Apollon Limassol (3) - Recopa
    26/06/1983 Barcelona 2 x 2 Real Madrid - Copa de la Liga
    14/09/1983 Barcelona 5 x 1 Magdeburg (3) - Recopa
     
  8. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    You can search in Vangaurdia and MundoDeportivo archive with the first one being more reliable IMO

    http://www.lavanguardia.com/hemeroteca/
    http://www.mundodeportivo.com/hemeroteca/index.html
     
  9. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Thanks!

    It will help me a lot.

    Even more 2 FKs Maradona:
    15/09/1982 Barcelona 8 x 0 Apollon Limassol - Recopa
    22/11/1992 Sevilla 2 x 1 Celta - Liga

    Now we need to gather information about their goals in Argentinos.

    Now that is difficult :thumbsdown:
     
  10. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Do you have videos regarding those ones? Very informative.
     
  11. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012

    10/04/1983 Barcelona 2 x 3 Athletic Bilbao - Liga - 05:41
    13/04/1983 Barcelona 3 x 0 Athletic Bilbao - Copa del Rey - 07:36
    15/04/1984 Barcelona 2 x 0 Salamanca - Liga - 28:42

    22/06/1983 Barcelona 5 x 2 Atlético Madrid - Copa de la Liga
     
  12. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    #87 Lucas..., Jan 24, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: May 11, 2015
  13. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    schwuppe, missing only the FKs of Figo!
     
  14. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    PuckVanHeel, I see informations about all the goals from Pelé in Brazil NT between 1964-1971.

    The result? 5 FKs, all in friendlies:
    06/06/1965 Brasil 2 x 0 Alemanha Oc.
    17/06/1965 Brasil 3 x 0 Algéria
    03/11/1968 Brasil 2 x 1 México
    22/03/1970 Brasil 5 x 0 Chile
    17/05/1970 Brasil 5 x 2 León
    +
    2 FKs in World Cups:
    Brasil 2 x 0 Bulgária - 1966
    Brasil 3 x 2 Romênia - 1970

    Furthermore, I found more 2 PKs:
    04/06/1966 Brasil 4 x 0 Peru
    24/08/1969 Brasil 6 x 0 Venezuela

    I realized that in those years, Pelé was usually the main FK, but Edu, Rivelino and Tostao also had chances. In relation to PKs, Tostao charged many PKs (sometimes Jairzinho).

    I'll look for your FKs in Brazil between 1957-1964. At Santos will be difficult...
     
    PuckVanHeel repped this.
  15. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    I'm still looking FKs many other players. The work is just beginning.

    My objetive is, here at a loooong time, gather complete information about best FKs of all time in a single post, document, or a new thread to serve as a source for all members who access the BigSoccer.

    I don't ask anyone to waste time looking for goals, but if anyone has valuable links (as Puck and Estel posted) of newspapers and websites, I am grateful. My knowledge is summarized to Brazil. :)
     
  16. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Thanks, what source did you use?
     
  17. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Digital Collection Folha de São Paulo and Jornal do Brasil (great newspapers in Brazil). I checked the date of the games and read the analyzes. In some games, I have seen videos on YouTube.
     
  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Great. That will make some claims about him at least more factually based (though football isn't a stat friendly sport IMO). As far as Brazil is concerned.
    I also know Pelé had between 25 and 30 assists for Brazil in the official games, the 92 caps officially recognized by FIFA. He also scored a mighty 77 goals of course in a 14 years career with NT. Was able to confirm 25 assists but miss info about two blowouts.
    Like to know how many of those goals were a free kick or penalty kick. 7 free kick goals in 92 caps is at least an impressive start.
     
  19. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Transcribed only FKs Pelé according to the newspapers, in portuguese:

    06/06/1965 Brasil 2 x 0 Alemanha Oc.
    Cobrando falta da intermediária a falta que Ciello sofrera de Lorenz, Pelé atirou forte, com efeito e a bola envolve a barreira e chega as redes, pelo alto, do lado direito.

    17/06/1965 Brasil 3 x 0 Algéria
    O gol surgiu de uma falta sofrida por Pelé, que ele próprio chutou. O goleiro Zerga tocou mas não deteve a bola, que foi ás redes.

    03/11/1968 Brasil 2 x 1 México
    Houve uma falta na entrada da área e Pelé cobrando muito bem, mandou a bola por cima da barreira e ela entrou o angulo direito da meta de Calderon.

    22/03/1970 Brasil 5 x 0 Chile
    Pelé atira a bola com força e visando à meia altura, o canto esquerdo do gol chileno.

    17/05/1970 Brasil 5 x 2 León
    Gerson, Rivelino e Pelé prepararam-se para cobrar. Os dois primeiros correram, passaram por sobre a bola e foi Pelé quem realmente chutou. O goleiro mexicano, confuso, nem foi na bola.

    And I found two more PKs, both in the same game against Argentina on 16/04/1963, by Roca Cup.

    I'm still searching and try to make a detailed list of all the goals and assists from Pelé of Brazil NT (not just FKs and PKs).
     
  20. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    PuckVanHeel, done!

    -

    [​IMG]

    Pelé - Brasil NT (official games)

    1957 - 2 games, 2 goals, 0 FK, 0 PK, 0 assists
    1) Brazil 1x2 Argentina - Roca Cup
    1Goal

    2) Brasil 1x0 Argentina - Roca Cup
    1Goal

    1958 - 7 games, 9 goals, O FK, 0 PK, 0 assists
    3) Brasil 5x1 Paraguai - Oswald Cup
    1Goal

    4) Brasil 4x0 Bulgaria - Friendly

    5) Brasil 3x1 Bulgaria - Friendly
    2Goals

    6) Brasil 2x0 Soviet Union - World Cup

    7) Brasil 1x0 Wales - World Cup
    1Goal

    8) Brasil 5x2 France - World Cup
    3Goals

    9) Brasil 5x2 Sweden - World Cup
    2Goals

    1959 - 9 games, 11 goals, O FK, 0 PK, 4 assists
    10) Brasil 2x2 Peru - Sul-Americano
    1Goal

    11) Brasil 3x0 Chile - Sul-Americano
    2Goals

    12) Brasil 4x2 Bolivia - Sul-Americano
    1Goal + 1Assist (Paulinho)

    13) Brasil 3x1 Uruguai - Sul-Americano
    1Assist (Paulinho)

    14) Brasil 4x1 Paraguai - Sul-Americano
    3Goals

    15) Brasil 1x1 Argentina - Sul-Americano
    1Goal

    16) Brasil 2x0 Inglaterra - Friendly

    17) Brasil 7x0 Chile - O'Higgins Cup
    3Goals + 1Assist

    18) Brasil 1x0 Chile - O'Higgins Cup
    1Assist

    1960 - 6 games, 4 goals, 0 FK, 0 PK, 0 assists
    19) Brasil 5x0 Emirados Árabes - Friendly

    20) Brasil 3x1 Emirados Árabes - Friendly
    3Goals

    21) Brasil 3x0 Emirados Árabes - Friendly

    22) Brasil 4x3 Dinamarca - Friendly

    23) Uruguai 1x0 Brasil - Atlantic Cup

    24) Brasil 5x1 Argentina - Atlantic Cup
    1Goal

    1962 - 8 games, 8 goals, 0 FK, 0 PK, 5 assists
    25) Brasil 6x0 Paraguai - Oswald Cup
    1Goal

    26) Brasil 4x0 Paraguai - Oswald Cup
    2Goals + 1Assist (Vavá)

    27) Brasil 2x1 Portugal - Friendly
    1Assist (Quarentinha)

    28) Brasil 1x0 Portugal - Friendly
    1Goal

    29) Brasil 3x1 Wales - Friendly
    1Goal + 1 Assist (Coutinho)

    30) Brasil 3x1 Wales - Friendly
    2Goals + 1Assist (Vavá)

    31) Brasil 2x0 Mexico - World Cup
    1Goal + 1Assist

    32) Brasil 0x0 Czechoslovakia - World Cup

    1963 - 7 games, 7 goals, 0 FK, 3 PK, 2 assists
    33) Brasil 2x3 Argentina - Roca Cup

    34) Brasil 5x2 Argentina - Roca Cup
    3Goals (2 PKs) + 2Assists (Amarildo)

    35) Brasil 0x1 Portugal - Friendly

    36) Brasil 3x2 France - Friendly
    3Goals (1 PK)

    37) Brasil 0x1 Netherlands - Friendly

    38) Brasil 2x1 West Germany - Friendly
    1Goal

    39) Brasil 0x3 Italy - Friendly

    1964 - 3 games, 2 goals, 0 FK, 0 PK, 3 assists
    40) Brasil 5x1 England - Taça das Nações
    1Goal + 3 assists (2x Rinaldo / Julinho)

    41) Brasil 0x3 Argentina - Taça das Nações

    42) Brasil 4x1 Portugal - Taça das Nações
    1Goal

    1965 - 8 games, 9 goals, 2 FK, 0 PK, 2 assists
    43) Brasil 5x0 Belgium - Friendly
    3Goals + 1Assist (Flávio)

    44) Brasil 2x0 West Germany - Friendly
    1Goal (FK)

    45) Brasil 0x0 Argentina - Friendly

    46) Brasil 3x0 Algeria - Friendly
    1Goal (FK)

    47) Brasil 0x0 Portugal - Friendly

    48) Brasil 2x1 Sweden - Friendly
    1Goal

    49) Brasil 3x0 Soviet Union - Friendly
    2Goals + 1Assist (Flavio)

    50) Brasil 2x2 Soviet Union - Friendly
    1Goal

    1966 - 9 games, 5 goals, 1 FK, 1 PK, 1 assists
    51) Brasil 1x0 Chile - Friendly

    52) Brasil 4x0 Peru - Friendly
    1Goal (PK) + 1Assist (Lima)

    53) Brasil 2x1 Poland - Friendly

    54) Brasil 2x1 Czechoslovakia - Friendly
    2Goals

    55) Brasil 2x1 Czechoslovakia - Friendly
    1Goal

    56) Brasil 1x1 Scotland - Friendly

    57) Brasil 3x2 Sweden - Friendly

    58) Brasil 2x0 Bulgaria - World Cup
    1Goal (FK)

    59) Brasil 1x3 Portugal - World Cup

    1968 - 7 games, 4 goals, 2 FK, 0 PK, 1 assists
    60) Brasil 4x0 Paraguai - Oswald Cup
    2Goals (1FK)

    61) Brasil 0x1 Paraguai - Oswald Cup

    62) Brasil 1x2 Mexico - Friendly

    63) Brasil 2x1 Mexico - Friendly
    1Goal (FK) + 1Assist (Jairzinho)

    64) Brasil 2x1 FIFA XI - Friendly

    65) Brasil 2x2 West Germany

    66) Brasil 3x3 Yugoslavia
    1Goal

    1969 - 9 games, 7 goals, 0 FK, 1 PK, 5 assists
    67) Brasil 2x1 Peru - Friendly

    68) Brasil 3x2 Peru - Friendly
    1Goal + 1Assist (Tostão)

    69) Brasil 2x1 England - Friendly

    70) Brasil 2x0 Colombia - World Cup 70 Qualifiers

    71) Brasil 5x0 Venezuela - World Cup 70 Qualifiers
    2Goals + 1Assist (Tostão)

    72) Brasil 3x0 Paraguai - World Cup 70 Qualifiers
    1Assist (Jarzinho)

    73) Brasil 6x2 Colombia - World Cup 70 Qualifiers
    1Goal + 1Assist (Tostão)

    74) Brasil 6x0 Venezuela - World Cup 70 Qualifiers
    2Goals (1PK) + 1Assist (Tostão)

    75) Brasil 1x0 Paraguai - World Cup 70 Qualifiers
    1Goal

    1970 - 15 games, 8 goals, 2 FK, 0 PK, 7 assists
    76) Brasil 0x2 Argentina - Friendly

    77) Brasil 2x1 Argentina - Friendly
    1Goal

    78) Brasil 5x0 Chile - Friendly
    2Goals (1FK) + 1Assist (Roberto)

    79) Brasil 2x1 Chile - Friendly

    80) Brasil 0x0 Paraguai - Friendly

    81) Brasil 0x0 Bulgaria - Friendly

    82) Brasil 1x0 Austria - Friendly

    83) Brasil 4x1 Czechoslovakia - World Cup
    1Goal

    84) Brasil 1x0 England - World Cup
    1Assist (Jairzinho)

    85) Brasil 3x2 Romania - World Cup
    2Goals (1FK)

    86) Brasil 4x2 Peru - World Cup

    87) Brasil 3x1 Uruguay - World Cup
    1Assist (Rivellino)

    88) Brasil 4x1 Italy - World Cup
    1Goal + 2Assists (Jairzinho / Carlos Alberto Torres)

    89) Brasil 2x1 Mexico - Friendly
    2Assists (Jairzinho ; Tostão)

    90) Brasil 5x1 Chile - Friendly
    1Goal

    1971 - 2 games, 1 goals, 0 FK, 0 PK, 0 assists
    91) Brasil 1x1 Austria - Friendly
    1Goal

    92) Brasil 2x2 Yugoslavia - Friendly

    Games: 92 games
    Goals: 77 goals
    Assists: 30 assists
    Direct Free Kick: 7 FKs
    Brasil 2x0 West Germany - Friendly - 1965
    Brasil 3x0 Algeria - Friendly - 1965
    Brasil 2x0 Bulgaria - World Cup - 1966
    Brasil 4x0 Paraguai - Oswald Cup - 1968
    Brasil 2x1 Mexico - Friendly - 1968
    Brasil 5x0 Chile - Friendly - 1970
    Brasil 3x2 Romania - World Cup - 1970
    Penalty Kick: 5 PKs
    Brasil 5x2 Argentina - Roca Cup 1963 2x
    Brasil 3x2 France - Friendly - 1963
    Brasil 4x0 Peru - Friendly - 1966
    Brasil 6x0 Venezuela - World Cup 70 Qualifiers


    Sources:
    http://acervo.folha.com.br/
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=0qX8s2k1IRwC

    I checked all dates, read the reviews and saw some videos on YouTube.

    I believe that these data are almost 100% correct... how I read on analyzes, there may be some exaggeration. But I believe that everything is correct. The criteria for assists are rigorous and assists to equal the journals, magazines, etc...
     
  21. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    OK, there are some minor differences with what I had already gathered but between 25 and 30 (more likely around 30; had already confirmed 25) seems to be correct. Sources will always vary a bit in that respect and also depends on what one sees as assist (in some instances I know cases where a rebound-goal is even seen as an assist).
    Good to see the missing ones. Thanks for the PK and FK info too.

    EDIT: looked again. I'm certain about 25 but missed (100% reliable/double-checked) info about a couple of games so thought about around 30 assists indeed.
     
  22. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Not valid cases like assists... if I validate, Pele would +10 assists in the account.

    Valid:
    - Pelé make a cross and striker head the ball into the net
    - Pelé make a pass and striker kicks the ball in the net (or striker driblles defenders and kick)
    = assist = decisive pass
     
  23. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Agree with you but will give a specific example of a source/publication who rules otherwise.

    Here a rebound-goal is ruled as an assist - the shot leading to the rebound is an assist.
    http://www.fussballdaten.de/bundesliga/1972/34/bmuenchen-schalke/
    [the 4:1 of Hoeness]


    [4:1 of Hoeness is on 1:22]

    http://www.fussballdaten.de/

    Was once curious about how many assists Müller, Beckenbauer, Schuster, Netzer had for NT and thought that this website would be a good help/assist but those see a rebound-goal also as assist.

    There are also other examples but this is a notable one because it was a (famous) title-winning game.
     
  24. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    I've seen sites consider assists as:
    - Own goal
    - In free kick, the 1player make a little pass (straightens) for the 2player kicks like...


    Each site has its own criteria... is complicated.

    But the criteria that I consider correct are those I listed.

    -

    Puck, you have any list of goals Koeman in Groningen, Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord? Or FKs ... or video. ;)
     
  25. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    That will take a long while to investigate. I know that in his career high 1987/1988 season (21 goals) 6 of them were a PK. However, 2 of them were funnily acquired by himself (he was fouled).

    Saw that he was taken in the draft by someone.
     

Share This Page