Top Free Kick Takers of All-Time

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  1. Lucas...

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    Dec 18, 2012
    #1 Lucas..., Jan 9, 2013
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    Zico - Flamengo, Udinese, Kashima e Brazil NT

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    In the first post, I reported that Zico scored 101 FK goals in his career. I relied on information from a friend and many articles/bios saying ''Zico scored +100 FKs, 17 in Udine, 69 in Fla''.

    So I decided to search on this site (Zico official) http://www.ziconarede.com.br/znrpub/variedade/cadgols/fichatec.php, I looked his professional career and I found 80FK goals.

    Why Zico's goals are overvalued by other sources?
    - Maybe contains amateurs goals, goals in festive games.
    - Maybe Zico doesn't have information about all goals.

    Anyway, it's the best I've done. I think Zico has really 80FK goals, or a little more. Apologizes for the wrong information.

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    FLAMENGO
    1971 – 1 FK goal

    11/08 – Campeonato Brasileiro - Flamengo 1x1 Bahia
    1972 - 0
    1973 – 0
    1974 – 6 FK goals

    03/02 – Friendly – Flamengo 2x0 Goiatuba
    17/02 – Friendly – Flamengo 5x1 Corinthians
    0:49
    01/09 – Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 1x2 Fluminense
    09/10 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 5x1 Madureira
    20/10 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 1x1 Vasco da Gama
    08/12 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 2x1 América
    0:16
    1975 – 5 FK goals
    02/02 – Friendly – Flamengo 4x2 Internacional
    12/03 – Torneio de Goiás (unofficial tournament) – Flamengo 3x0 Sel. Goiás
    09/07 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x0 Portuguesa-RJ
    13/08 – Friendly – Flamengo 2x1 Treze
    29/10 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 2x3 Tiradentes
    1976 – 4 FK goals
    20/01 – Friendly – Flamengo 2x0 Portela
    07/03 – Friendly – Flamengo 4x1 Fluminense
    30/09 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 4x0 Volta Redonda
    0:21
    24/11 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 5x1 Grêmio
    1977 – 6 FK goals
    27/04 - Campeonato Carioca - Flamengo 2x0 Madureira
    07/05 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x0 Goytacaz
    29/05 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 5x1 Campo Grande
    24/08 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x0 Americano
    11/09 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x1 América
    16/10 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 5x0 Vitória
    1978 – 3FK goals
    06/09 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 5x0 Campo Grande
    1:10
    11/11 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 9x0 Portuguesa-RJ
    0:53
    22/11 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 2x0 São Cristovão
    1979 – 3FK goals
    11/02 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 4x0 América
    25/08 – Ramón de Carranza (unofficial tournament) – Flamengo 2x1 Barcelona
    02/12 – Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 4x0 São Bento
    0:23
    1980 – 3FK goals
    13/04 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 6x2 Palmeiras
    0:28
    10/09 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 7x1 Niterói
    12/10 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 1x1 Botafogo
    1981 – 5FK goals
    21/06 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 5x2 Campo Grande
    14/07 - Copa Libertadores – Flamengo 5x2 Cerro Porteño

    07/10 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 4x0 Olaria
    23/10 - Copa Libertadores – Flamengo 3x0 Deportivo Cali
    1:00
    23/11 - Copa Libertadores – Flamengo 2x0 Cobreloa

    1982 – 1FK goal
    18/08 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x1 Volta Redonda
    1983 – 2FK goals
    30/01 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 1x1 Moto Club
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUH5ClJBPqk
    17/04 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 5x1 Corinthians
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VrIzfWnIc 0:24
    1985 – 2FK goals
    12/07 – Friendly - Flamengo 3x1 Zico’s Friends
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQFWLWIJaFo
    14/07 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 3x0 Bahia
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXDZwEBdkrI 0:11
    1986 – 1FK goal
    16/02 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 4x1 Fluminense
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH7Z3msqDMA 0:59
    1987 – 0
    1988 – 0
    1989 – 2FK goals

    07/05 - Campeonato Carioca – Flamengo 3x3 Botafogo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd6_g-rqYg0 0:58
    02/12 - Campeonato Brasileiro – Flamengo 5x0 Fluminense
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm1Ci_K3SZw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6V2hvHU4tE

    UDINESE
    1983/1984 – 7FK goals

    05/08/1983 – Friendly – Udinese 2x1 Real Madrid
    12/09/1983 – Série A – Udinese 5x0 Genoa
    18/09/1983 – Série A – Udinese 3x1 Catania
    25/09/1983 – Série A – Udinese 1x2 Avellino
    22/01/1984 – Série A – Udinese 2x0 Catania
    29/01/1984 – Série A – Udinese 2x1 Avellino
    19/02/1984 - Série A – Udinese 3x1 Fiorentina

    1984/1985 – 7FK goals
    May – Friendly – Udinese 3x2 FC Luzern
    Unknown Date – Friendly – Udinese 5x0 Friuli (Italy)
    29/08/1984 – Coppa Italia – Udinese 2x1 Lecce
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzGGeD5bSeo 0:19
    09/09/1984 - Coppa Italia – Udinese 3x3 Sampdoria
    31/03/1985 – Série A – Udinese 2x1 Internazionale
    14/04/1985 – Série A - Udinese 2x3 Juventus
    Unknown Date - Friendly - Udinese 11x1 Maniago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRUYn0iICsQ


    JAPAN
    1991 - 7FK goals

    26/07 - Friendly - Sumitomo Metals 2x1 Yamaha
    31/07 - Friendly - Sumitomo Metals 4x4 Ana Zenic
    14/09 - Japan League 2º Div - Sumitomo Metals 1x0 Tokyo Gaz
    18/09 - Friendly - Sumitomo Metals 2x3 Totita
    16/10 - Japan League 2º Div - Sumitomo Metals 2x0 NTT Kanto
    27/10 - Japan League 2º Div - Sumitomo Metals 4x1 Cosmo Oil
    09/11 - Friendly - Sumitomo Metals 5x4 Nippon University
    1992 - 4FK goals
    19/01 - Japan League 2º Div - Sumitomo 4x0 Yomiuri Júnior
    08/02 - Japan League 2º Div – Sumitomo 5x0 Totita
    23/09 - J. League Cup - Kashima Antlers 3x4 Yokohama Marinos
    03/10 - J. League Cup - Kashima Antlers 7x1 Nagoya Grampus Eight
    1993 - 2FK goals
    16/05 - J. League - Kashima Antlers 5x0 Nagoya Grampus Eight
    27/11 - J. League - Kashima Antlers 1x0 Sanfrecce Hiroshima
    1994 - 2FK goals
    01/06 - J. League - Kashima Antlers 3x1 Gamba Osaka
    11/06 - J. League - Kashima Antlers 4x0 Bellmare Hiratsuka

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6djhzYYaQrs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaRtDl2jYOA


    BRASIL
    25/02/ 1976 Brasil 2x1 Uruguay - Copa Rio Branco
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUzn1dvbcU
    27/02/1976 Brasil 2x1 Argentina - Copa Roca
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF6JMjXfv6Y
    23/06/1977 Brasil 2x0 Scotland - Friendly
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrAHQzQmVmA
    14/07/1977 Brasil 8x0 Bolivia - World Cup Qualifier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyjt_hkc17o
    12/03/1978 Brasil 7x0 Sel. Carioca - Unofficial Friendly
    22/03/1981 Brasil 3x1 Bolivia - World Cup Qualifier
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HDNI4mmjzg
    18/06/1982 Brasil 4x1 Scotland - World Cup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1KHREnqZ7Y

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    44 Flamengo
    - 11 Campeonato Brasileiro
    - 21 Campeonato Carioca
    - 3 Copa Libertadores
    - 9 Friendlies
    14 Udinese
    - 8 Série A
    - 4 Friendlies
    - 2 Coppa Italia
    15 Japan
    - 4 Friendlies
    - 5 Japan League 2º Div
    - 2 J. League Cup
    - 4 J. League
    7 Brasil

    80 FK GOALS

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    Other sources:
    - http://www.futebol80.com.br/links/times/flamengo/flamengojg.htm
    - http://www.futebol80.com.br/links/artilheiros/zico.htm


    62 goals for Flamengo
    17 goals for Udinese
    15 goals for Kashima
    7 goals for Brazil NT
    ALL: 101 goals


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    Juninho Pernambucano - Sport, Vasco, Lyon, Al-Gharafa e Brazil NT

    (some goals is not investigated)
    1 goal for Sport
    18 goals for Vasco
    44 goals for Lyon
    9 goals for Al-Gharafa
    4 goals for Brazil NT
    ALL: 76 goals

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    Rogério Ceni - São Paulo


    ALL: 56 goals for São Paulo

    From Peter:
    Updated list. Fifty or more goals from direct free-kicks in official matches.

    Zico 80+
    Marcelinho Carioca 80
    Juninho Pernambucano 79
    Didi 70+
    Pelé 70+
    Ronaldinho 70+
    Marcos Assunҫão 64
    Maradona 62
    Ronald Koeman 60+
    Kostas Frantzeskos 57+
    Ceni 56
    Beckham 54
    Mihajlović 50+
    Nelinho 50+
    Platini 50+
    Van Hooijdonk 50+
    Del Piero 50
    Nakamura 50
    Cristiano Ronaldo 50

    Nineteen men identified so far.

    31 other notable free-kick specialists who might make up a Top 50:

    Brazil – Branco, Roberto Carlos, Eder, Neto, Pepe, Rivaldo, Rivelino
    Germany – Ballack, Basler, Brehme, Hässler
    Italy – Roberto Baggio, Mario Corso, Pirlo, Zola
    Former Yugoslavia – Kostić, Pjanić
    Paraguay – Francisco Arce, Chilavert
    Peru – Cubillas, Nolberto Solano
    Romania – Hagi, Claudiu Niculescu
    Argentina – Riquelme
    Bulgaria – Stoichkov
    Greece – Tsartas
    Ireland – Harte
    Netherlands – Sneijder
    Turkey – Hakan Ҫalhanoğlu
    Uruguay – Recoba
    Venezuela – Arango
     
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  2. Lucas...

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    Dec 18, 2012
    #2 Lucas..., Jan 10, 2013
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    Ronaldinho - Grêmio, PSG, Barcelona, Milan, Flamengo, Atlético-MG, Brazil NT


    7 goals for Gremio
    4 goals for PSG
    24 goals for Barcelona
    3 goals for Milan
    4 goals for Flamengo
    1 goal for Atlético-MG
    11 goals for Brazil NT
    ALL: 54 goals
    (These statistics are ''Ronaldinho Video - All 54 Free Kicks'' in YouTube, the video whose author is my friend and said the numbers are right. However, the ''Revista Placar - November/2009'' says Ronaldinho had 63 FKs of career so far. I'm searching. If they are correct, Ronaldinho should have more than 70 FKs in career.)
     
  3. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    What's your source? I remember reading in Placar magazine

    Sport, Vasco da Gama, Lyon 93-09 47
     
  4. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    My source is the video I made on YouTube with 75 of the 76 goals.

    Sport - There is a video of a newscast from 1994 (''Sport vs Grêmio 1994'' in YouTube) reporting a FK from Juninho there. Unfortunately it is one of the few videos that have him there. So I do not know if I scored more FKs.

    Vasco - discovered through the site http://futdados.com/especial-juninho-gols-pelo-vasco-desde-1995/ that makes football statistics and reliable. However, there are more than 10 goals that do not have video or in old newspapers (the Internet, for now).

    Lyon - in http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juninho_Pernambucano has a list of all the goals.
     
  5. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    Are all the club freekicks goals competitive games?
     
  6. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    With everyone, yeah NT-friendlies are considered official, club friendlies and exhibition matches are not, because the clubs can agree the rules themselves.
     
  7. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Juninho? Yes, except a goal scored by Brazil NT in a friendly unofficial. Ceni well. Zico'm not sure... but in their times things were different.

    Brazil NT:
    1 goal vs Bolivia - Eliminatórias 2006
    1 goal vs Grécia - Confederations Cup 2005
    1 goal vs Emirados Árabes - friendly official
    1 goal vs FC Lucerne - friendly considered unofficial (preparation for the World Cup)
     
  8. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    From what is this info taken?
     
  9. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
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  10. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    #10 Lucas..., Jan 10, 2013
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    Marcos Assunção - Santos, Flamengo, Real Betis, Barueri e Palmeiras


    4 goals for Santos
    3 goals for Flamengo
    29 goals for Betis
    5 goals for Grêmio Barueri
    23 goals for Palmeiras
    ALL: 64 goals

    Sources:
    YouTube videos (goals in Flamengo and Santos)
    Recent news
    Official website Marcos Assunção

    PS:
    I could not see his goals in Rio Branco, Roma, Al Shabab and Al Ahli.
    According to the list of Marcos Assunção, he said, he has 130 career FKs, but this list was never made available for him...
     
  11. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Thanks. Do you also know how many FK and PKs Pelé has for his teams, for Brazil?
     
  12. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    I have no idea, friend ... Pelé is never mentioned in the list of major FKs.

    But I'll search and post here. I'm interested to know if he was good at it too. ;)
     
  13. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    Just like many youngers (who never knew Pele) alwyas claimed he was "overated"! I pity and sympathize for their knowledge!

    Of course Pele was among the TOP FK taker, indeed he was the main FK besides Didi and Garrincha (even those 2 were among the best FK of all times surely). He scored 1 FK in WC62 for example.

    Once I got a source saying he got 500+ assists and 100+ FK career (but he played more games than Zico) but I lost it ... and even we don;t know how accurate that was at time, unfortunately. Probably we have to go to all forum of Brazil fans (around the world) to see if someone still kept that
     
  14. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Would already be great if you can find it for Brazil NT.

    Also like to know how many PKs he scored.

    :thumbsup: Great thread. Rep :thumbsup:
     
  15. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    Pele scored only about 750 official goals.
     
  16. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Thanks!

    Look, a survey of these is very difficult and requires work.

    Therefore, as the PKs, I decided to consult the great page http://people.ufpr.br/~mmsabino/sstatistics/pele.html

    In it contained two PKs with Brazil NT:
    Brazil 3-2 France in 1963 and Brazil 5x3 Atletico Madrid in 1966, friendlies.

    The low number surprised me, so I have two theories for this:

    1 - He scored few PKs with Brazil
    2 - There are many goals he has no details and so it is hard to say.

    How I plan to research the FKs of Pele in Brazil NT, make it possible to know whether the number of 2 PKs is correct. ;)
     
  17. Lucas...

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    Dec 18, 2012
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    Cristiano Ronaldo - Manchester United, Real Madrid, Portugal NT



    14 goals for Manchester United
    18 goals for Real Madrid
    5 goals for Portugal NT
    ALL: 37 goals

    Sources:
    YouTube
    Ronaldo7.net
    Wikipedia
     
  18. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    yes but most of his club and NT friendlies were at "pro level" (like vs Argentina, Uruguay in some national cups, or vs Inter Milan , PSG or Porto ... were also very pro and high level goals). Again, his 1000+ goals were well ACCEPTED by FIFA (like it or not)
     
  19. JamesBH11

    JamesBH11 Member+

    Sep 17, 2004
    That was very possible.
    From 58-64: Didi was the main PK taker then Garrincha
    65-70: Pele became the main PK taker, sharing with either Garrincha or Rivelino ...

    Note that in that period, pk was not very strict unless it was an obvious tackled in the box
     
  20. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    Yes, it is likely.
    And according to the website, Pelé has 70 goals from penalty in his career, most after a few years of the 60s ...
     
  21. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
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    Alessandro Del Piero - Juventus, Sidney FC, Italy
    NT


    43 goals for Juventus
    1 goal for Sidney FC
    5 goals for Italy NT
    ALL: 49 goals

    Sources:
    YouTube (compilations)
     
  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    Cronaldo has 17 freekicks for Real Madrid, you're probably counting the goal from Pepe's back which was officially given to Pepe.
     
  23. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Country:
    Argentina
    NT friendlies are official, club friendlies or exhibition matches or half NT and club friendlies are not. His 1000 goals are not accepted by Fifa as official goals, because there is far too many variables in unofficial matches to compare them to official. I think I have already explained the difference between them to you, so consult that explanation if you don't remember.
     
  24. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    You're right, man... Thanks.

    I retired only the goals by friendlies and forgot the goal given to Pepe (well debatable, incidentally).

    Then the correct is that Cristiano has 17 FKs for Real Madrid. Too bad I can not edit the post...
     
  25. Lucas...

    Lucas... Member+

    Dec 18, 2012
    BadaBing, when told of Pele's 1000 goals, i didn't to started this discussion ... I just said that Pele should have a good number of FKs because scored many goals. ;)

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    And if you, or someone else, would like to contribute to the thread, either correcting or bringing new stats... I'll be grateful. Preferably if they thought sites with stats that have FKs haha
     

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