Thursday 21 Nov 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Stuart95, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Armchair Analyst: State of Miami & Nashville rosters post-Expansion Draft
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...-miami-nashville-rosters-post-expansion-draft

    Nashville MLS Expansion Draft Party
    https://www.tennessean.com/picture-...shville-mls-expansion-draft-party/4243208002/

    The Revolution gambled in the MLS expansion draft, but it paid off
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/soccer/2019/11/19/soccernotes/UtKuji7SlmY556ezxxoSNI/story.html

    NYCFC joins Florida Cup lineup after Spartak Moscow pulls out
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/nycfc-joins-florida-cup-lineup-after-spartak-moscow-pulls-out/

    Fire could be getting a new logo and tweaking name
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/soccer...-name-major-league-soccer-sports-uniforms-mls

    Real Salt Lake name veteran defender Tony Beltran assistant general manager
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/real-salt-lake/real-salt-lake-tony-beltran-gm-mls-promotion/

    Report: Claudio Reyna set to leave NYCFC for Austin FC
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...ases-sporting-director-mls-expansion-club-austin-fc

    Colorado Rapids permanently acquire Lalas Abubakar, add Auston Trusty in trade
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...cquire-lalas-abubakar-add-auston-trusty-trade

    Union trade Auston Trusty to Colorado Rapids
    https://www.inquirer.com/soccer/auston-trusty-trade-philadelphia-union-colorado-rapids-20191120.html

    Vancouver Whitecaps transfer Doneil Henry to Korean side Suwon Bluewings
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/vancou...doneil-henry-korean-suwon-bluewings-mls-2019/

    Keaton Parks won’t return to New York City FC in 2020
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/keaton-parks-wont-return-to-new-york-city-fc-in-2020/

    NYCFC declines options for Bedoya, Caldwell, Miller, Mohamed, Ofori
    https://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2019...ons-for-bedoya-caldwell-miller-mohamed-ofori/

    Houston Dynamo thrilled to pick up "rare" talent in Darwin Quintero
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/11/20/houston-dynamo-thrilled-pick-rare-talent-darwin-quintero

    Houston Dynamo trade Joe Willis, acquire Zarek Valentin from Nashville SC
    https://www.prosoccerusa.com/mls/ex...and-acquire-zarek-valentin-from-nashville-sc/

    Portland Timbers sign defender Dario Zuparic from Croatian club HNK Rijeka
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...fender-dario-zuparic-croatian-club-hnk-rijeka

    Report: Peruvian winger Kevin Quevedo coming to MLS in 2020?
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/11/20/report-peruvian-winger-kevin-quevedo-coming-mls-2020

    This is why 1,800 global soccer executives are meeting in Aventura on Thursday
    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mls/article237584654.html
     
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  2. Pack87Man

    Pack87Man BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 1, 2001
    Quad Cities
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With regards to Reyna, I wonder how the decisions he made with his son were perceived and received at NYCFC. It certainly seems like a bit of a slap in the face of your own organization to send him to nowhere even within the City group.
     
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  3. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Agreed. The guy epitomizes metro NY scene and was regarded pretty dedicated. Talk about your different settings.
     
  4. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    Some have always felt his commitment to the cause could be more emphatic.
     
  5. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well if Reyna is anything like my friends from college, he'll be posting on facebook about how much cooler Austin used to be three months after moving there.
     
  6. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. NeilB

    NeilB Member

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mount Kisco, NY
  8. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  9. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  11. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Am I insane about Chicago? Yeah the new logo is hilaribad. But pretty much ten times out of ten, if I thought I saw a Fire bumper sticker it was actually just a firefighter. Suddenly I'm seeing a lot of comments that the Fire had the best crest in the league. Have Fire fans felt that way before the rebrand?

    Lot of good moves for the Fire lately, but this one is admittedly pretty rough.
     
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  12. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    The entire "refresh" of the franchise is being unimaginably bungled.

    They got one big chance at getting this right, and I don't think it's too early to say that they've catastrophically blown it.
     
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  13. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Most of the Fire fans absolutely loved the old crest and were obviously attached to it, but the Fire fanbase is also pretty damn tiny and hasn't grown since Blanco was signed.

    I hated the damn thing, but I'm fully aware I'm in a very small minority of fans who felt that way. The new one is...ok.
     
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  14. Inca Roads

    Inca Roads Member+

    Nov 22, 2012
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I'm trying to tell if you wearing it already is ironic or not.

    I just remember visiting Chicago a few years ago and seeing the Fire logo on a fair number of bumpers. I was pretty excited! Always heard their market penetration was not great, but it seemed like they had a fair few fans around town. Then I saw the actual Chicago crest, remembered what it looked like, and realized I hadn't seen a single bumper sticker for the team in the city at all to that point. So I dunno.
     
  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would they change the name? it seems like they are still drawing a connection between the badge and brand between the Chicago Fire (the event) and the team. They also specifically call out the confusion that the old badge caused due to its resemblance to a firefighters badge. I kinda understand why they would want to change away from that badge and move to one that is uniquely the Chicago Fire's. Now, I won't comment on the quality of the badge itself, but it's not like I can say anything.. Have you seen the Sounders' badge? :)
     
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  16. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If confusion was the issue, maybe integrate a soccer ball into the logo instead of ripping off Vancouver's crest and making me think Chicago is their minor league affiliate. Nutmeg News was right on target.
     
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  17. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I'm sure somewhere in a basement in Tukwila, some superfan is prepared to enter year 12 of boycotting the sounders for abandoning their old orca motif.
     
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  18. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Woah, woah, woah.. The Fire's crest is the Chicago skyline ablaze and a reflection of that fire forming a crown representing the power of Chicagoans to "rise above" the flames! Totally different than the snowcapped Coast Mountains reflecting upon the blue Pacific Ocean...
     
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  19. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Naw, man, we cool. They brought Sammy back:

     
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  20. rocketeer22

    rocketeer22 Member+

    Apr 11, 2000
    Oakton,VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha. I always love statements like this for any organization looking to change anything:

    "So, during the research exercise that the Club carried out over the last 18 months, with surveys, interviews, focus groups and extensive Club and league research, that name and that origin story repeatedly stood out as two of the most powerful assets the Club and its fans valued, and certainly the standard by which all other ideas were judged."

    For those more in tune with the local Chicago market, did they attempt to send out multiple versions of potential rebranding and let fans/public vote for it or was all of this analysis behind closed doors? It is interesting to see the different approaches over the last handful of years.
     
  21. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Say what you will about Sparky. He has never given me nightmares.
     
  22. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #22 Bill Archer, Nov 22, 2019
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 22, 2019
    That's nice, but doesnt compare to the head scratching decision the Crew made.

    Precourt dumped the beloved Crew Cat and replaced him with " SC Cat" for reasons which were never explained, probably because it made no sense.

    Well, it did really piss off the fans and that seems to have been the motive behind pretty much everything else they did so who knows.

    So when the new owners took over in January, almost literally the first thing they did was announce the return of Crew Cat.



    Which was great except that they kept SC Cat around as well, which made about as much sense as any of the rest of it


    Alas, there are apparently no plans to being back the Crewzers.
     
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  23. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I still think that the proper authentic rebrand for Columbus would have been to replace the three hard-hatted guys with a guy in a lab coat, a college professor and an insurance executive.
     
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  24. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Other than using RSL's colors and the badge looking like a cardigan sweater or the logo of one of the movie theater chains, yeah, great....

    Whenever a graphic designer uses terms like "capturing the spirit of the city" you know they are totally making it up. A designer I used to work with said that his first project in Art School was to place a black dot anywhere you want on a white background. That's it. And then you had to explain why you decided to put it over here instead of there.... "It explores the vibrancy of the stark contrast between black and white and resonates the essence from within"

    Yeah, I just made that up. See how easy it is?
     
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  25. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    I'm gonna have to ask you to change your profile pic. It causes me to throw up in my mouth a little every time I see it ;)
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