Can someone post a link to the video or tell me which college game it was where the ball was headed out near the corner flag (last touched by the defense), goalkeeper ran out to try to save it but couldn't get there in time, and the opponent who was 35 yards up field grabbed a new ball from a ball boy, threw it in and they scored before the keeper could get back into goal?
This one here: https://streamable.com/svfqx Army v HC. Back from 2015. I had it in my archive (though it took a while to dig it out).
Here's a question... I've seen plenty of times where the ball goes out at 'x' (let's say right at the midfield stripe), the thrower gathers the ball, does a run up, and actually throws 5 yards (distance made up, just that it's "further" than where the ball went out) deep in the attacking half. Sometimes CR's have them move back, sometimes not. So what is an "acceptable" distance between where the ball goes out and where the throw in happens? Using the Army/Navy game video above, if the ball went out at midfield and Army throw it in 30 yards deep into their defensive half, would you have them rethrow?
Law 18--common sense. If it is within a reasonable distance and not creating an unfair advantage, it's easy to overlook. Otherwise, I'll stop them before they throw and direct them to the right spot. Note that taking the TI from an improper place would be an offense that would give the throw to the other team, not a re-throw by the team that threw from the wrong place.
Thank you for the answer. I'm not nitpicking the advancement of the throw, just saying there are times when throwing from a place other than where the ball went out is acceptable. So, some situations... 1) As the video showed (ball out for a throw at the corner flag and throw happens from the 30 yard area). If caught before the throw, move them up? If caught after the throw, turn over? 2) Move the ball 1/2 way down the field (so ball out for a throw at midfield and throw happens 30 yards into the throwing teams defensive half). Same result?
Most throw-ins from the "wrong" spot (i.e., more than about a yard from where the ball went out) are trifling, and therefore not to be trifled with. This one manifestly was not. And yes the wrongness can be in either direction, especially near the corner pin, where teams will frequently want to take the throw five or ten yards out instead of right by the pin.
No. Don’t be greedy I won’t be picky. But you sure as hell aren’t getting a tactical advantage out of it.
If they weren’t getting some advantage from taking it from a different spot they wouldn’t do it. Most teams that take it farther away from their attacking goal know they other team isn’t setting up to defend back that far. Hence they do it.
You can't really talk about situations without talking about level of play. The key question is whether there would be an unfair advantage. And that is totally ITOOTR. There is a happy medium between totally ignoring where the throw is taken (as in the video), and correcting every TI to within a yard.
I agree with you. I wouldn't expect an unskilled (ie: rec, especially younger) to try to do a quick restart. Around here it's only HS & college that have ball boys that would even make it an option (if they had to chase the ball down in the video, the GK would have gotten back into position). I agree with that too.
So in that video, is the correct call to give the throw in back to the white team near the corner flag where it went out or where the black team threw it in incorrectly?
Does this actually happen though? I can't think of any level where I have seen a throw given to the other team. Of course I don't recall ever seeing disregard for the correct spot this blatant either.
It's exceedingly rare. Typically it is stopped before it happens. I've only called it a couple of times--in both cases when I told a player to move to the proper spot and the player ignored the instruction and threw it in from the improper spot instead.