Thread name up for selling rights - OTT 35 [R]

god almighty, the epitome of lack of mental strength.

 

I caught the game this morning. The scum seemed to work at a slow pace on a hard bumpy pitch. Then slowed down even more when they scored.

The comms were down on Rostov. Saying that outside a set piece in front of goal there's no way they will score. Of course the score was 1-1. Manure with an away goal. Rostov shouldn't be a problem on the return.

 

Kane off injured vs Millwall - a bad ankle injury apparently that early comments say could keep him out for over a month.

 

Didn't stop the Spurs from hammering Millwal 6-0.

 

Cheats beating Manure 1-0 ... 60 minutes in. Herrera got a red in the 1st half - he's a right tw@t that guy.

hopefully the game will turn into a huge ugly brawl with plenty of reds all around ....

 

Herrera is such a piece of shit. Got a real chuckle in watching him get his marching orders.

 

To be fair (?!) to Harrerra, both of his yellow card "fouls" were against the Hazard lightweight, who falls over when any one runs by him and looks for a foul around every blade of grass...

 

Sevilla looks sh!t. Being undone at every stage, can't even score a penalty.

 

Could they pull back-to-back Leicesters, the league then the CL? The odds are they Kante.

 

He's an idiot. The skanks were so obviously targeting Hazard (presumably on Mourinho's orders), everybody could see that. So, 10 seconds after the referee has told the captain that was it, what does Herera do? Pig-sh!t think doesn't even describe that level of stupidity. More Man U players ought to have been sent off.

 

If only that Sevilla showed up last season in the EL final second half. Sigh

 

Red Bird - I am not saying that Harera's not an idiot (he is! - and a whiny one at that!)...but the way Hazard has become this "special player" is beyond my belief...he has and continues to show some good skill - but he also falls over and gets more "protection" than just about anyone ever...and the coms are so in love with him it is repulsive...he's good, but he's not that good...

 

They looked far from the team that put us to the sword back in May.

 

It's the cycle of selling the best players for a profit and buying unproven players on the cheap.....it's not sustainable with regards to progressing as a team

 

I think we would need to establish what "proven" means in this context. Is it a certain number of first team starts? First team starts+NT caps? Age? Market value/price paid? A combination of these things? This is an important metric because it will allow us to objectively judge how Liverpool do vs other clubs in terms of selling on their best players. For example, would you consider Sane unproven? Sturridge? Matip? Milner? Clyne? Lovren? What are your thoughts on the previously-unproven players that have thrived at LFC like Firmino, Coutinho and Hendo?

Then we need to establish what a normal tenure at a club is to again rate Liverpool vs the competition. There days, few players are "lifers" like Gerrard and Carragher were. Couple this with the fact there aren't many world class academies that churn out first team talent annually. To account for these factors, there is always going to be annual churn.

Point is, every single team barring Real Madrid and Barcelona bring in "unproven" talent to their ranks. The best clubs are able to be the proving grounds for a talented core and keep that core together as they win trophies and titles, supplementing with older/established players as well as young up-and-comers. We did it in the 70s and 80s, Barcelona, Real Madrid have done it, Bayern. That being said, deep pockets does not guarantee CL success either so it's not always about writing checks.

IMO, if Liverpool can keep the best of the current core and supplement as needed, we will be right in the CL hunt.

 

Good comments Revs...but let's look at our own LFC as the prime example...over the past few years we've sold Alanzo, Torres, Suarez, you can put Sterling, and even Stevie G in that group of "best players" that we have sold...and our struggles to make it to CL continue...

 

I was referring to sevilla and their somewhat stagnant position

Interms of proven talent and Liverpool, surely the players with EPL experience should be regarded as proven to dome extent similarly proven internationals applying their trade abroad

And academy grads and guaranteed first team football as up and coming youth players of 3-4 seasons are most likely sold on if they not up to first team standard at 20 or 21