The Young Guns: Are they destined for greatness?

Discussion in 'The Beautiful Game' started by Green Tabasco, May 11, 2003.

  1. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    This is an offshoot of another thread. Some interesting names were mentioned.

    Players destined for greatness is a touchy subject. I'll list a few of me personal choices.

    Aimar, Saviola, Riquelme (ARG). Ronaldinho, Denilson (BRZ). Santa Cruz (PGY). Owen, Rooney (ENG).

    And many many others....

    What are your picks?
     
  2. AFCA

    AFCA Member

    Jul 16, 2002
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    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Sneijder, Van der Vaart, De Jong, Pienaar. Vd meijde
     
  3. Maczebus

    Maczebus New Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    I think Owen could be classed as a little too old nowadays to be considered a youngster.
     
  4. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    Re: Re: The Young Guns: Are they destined for greatness?

    Hes 23. How young do they have to be? 13?
    I think any player over the age of 26 is out.
     
  5. Maczebus

    Maczebus New Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    He's been in the business at the sharp end, for around 6 years now.
    Been to 2 WCs and scored at both of them.

    In my opinion he's neither young (enough to be considered in this list), nor an up-and-comer.

    On the up-and-comer topic, I wouldn't necessarily have Ronaldinho on the list either - but he's definitely more deserving of a place than Owen is.
     
  6. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003

    OK maczebus. I'll buy your argument.

    let's define the term Young Gun: Any player under the age of 26 that has been playing on "First Division" team (Major League for the american fans) for no more than 3 years. Fair?
     
  7. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    By the way, this brings up a new argument.

    What Countries have the "most" Young Guns out there? or What countries are producing the most young world class players out there?
     
  8. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    Hahaha, Owen a "young gun"??? Do you even watch this sport??

    He's played in two World Cups. He's scored for England, what, 23? 26 times?? 100 Premier League goals, and over 130 for Liverpool over all??

    He's way past. Please don't rank him with Rooney.
     
  9. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    I think I already defined the term Young Guns. read the earlier posts. But if any of you would like to re-define the term, please feel free.
     
  10. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
    Orchard St, NYC
    See, you can't seriously consider someone who's 24, 25 to be a "young gun". By that age, players are close to hitting their physical peaks and should be stars for their clubs and senior international sides.
     
  11. Maczebus

    Maczebus New Member

    Jun 15, 2002
    I think basically we're looking for around 20/21 and under to be considered as a young-gun.
     
  12. Green Tabasco

    Green Tabasco New Member

    May 3, 2003
    Max 23 years of age? Lets define the term so we can get on with the list
     
  13. comme

    comme Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    There are so many, Rooney and Van der Vaart stand out. Then in SA Diego, Robinho, D'Allesandro, and plenty more who are supposed to have huge amounts of talents.
     
  14. 655321

    655321 New Member

    Jul 21, 2002
    The Mission, SF
    A "young gun" is someone who hasn't had the time to completely prove himself on a big stage, whether that be for the national team or club level. Michael Owen most certainly has on both.
     
  15. BadReligion

    BadReligion New Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Washington, DC
    Chivu, D'Alessandro, Cassano.
     
  16. TWR

    TWR New Member

    Jan 18, 2000
    New York
    Carlito Tevez: Boca Juniors
     

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