The World prefers Kerry

Discussion in 'Elections' started by highgarden, Sep 8, 2004.

  1. highgarden

    highgarden New Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Richmond, VA
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    DC United
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    30 out of 35 countries would elect Kerry as President. Those for Bush: Poland, the Philippines & Nigeria. India & Thailand were split. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=sto..._alt_afp/us_vote_poll_bush_kerry_040908164913
    This will not impact the election, but it does give you an idea of how unpopular Bush is outside the US. Which may affect any foreign policy if he has a second term. Such as reducing the US burden in Iraq with more allied troops & money.
     
  2. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
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    Blackburn Rovers FC
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    United States
    George Washington was universally hated, as was James Madison, and later Abraham Lincoln throughout the world! But that begs the question: who cares a whit what the rest of the world thinks? It hasn't slowed down the number of the rest of the world trying to get in the United States any way they can! As I remember; most of the world thought that the election of Ronald Reagan spelled the end of the world and World War III! Instead, it heralded the collapse of the Iron Curtain!

    Strange how the best leaders of the United States are perceived internationally! You want my opinion on the French President?

    IntheNet
     
  3. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
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    FC Dallas
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    I'd be more interested in hearing from these countries, as well, for a variety of reasons:

    Saudi Arabia
    Egypt
    Turkey
    Afghanistan
    Pakistan
    Iran
    Iraq
    Israel
    Tawain
    South Korea
    Liberia
    Haiti
     
  4. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

    Paris Saint Germain
    United States
    Apr 8, 2002
    Baltimore
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    [sings]Stop! The lie you save may be your own....[/sings]

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  5. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
    Montgomery Vlg, MD
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    Do you really need to ask?
     
  6. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    Actually, yes.

    I know Iraqis universally want US out of there country. But what do they think Kerry would do differently, if anything? I wonder how they feel when Kerry talks about broadening the coalition.

    Afghanistan? I bet Bush would do OK in Afghanistan.

    Saudi? Confess, no idea, but I'd like to know.

    Israel? Tawain? South Korea? Liberia? Haiti? All countries we play at least some role in defending. I'd like to know what they think.
     
  7. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
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    It's not a question of what Kerry would do differently, but a referendum on W's demonstrated incompetence.
     
  8. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
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    FC Dallas
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    You're probably right, at least in Iraq. Fine. Maybe so. I'd just rather hear what some of these countries think than say, Norway or South Africa or Brazil or Argentina.

    Btw, I'd like to add our partners in the war on drugs, Colombia, to that list as well.

    EDIT: What I'm trying to say is 'interesting idea', but I wish they would have asked some more relevant countries.
     
  9. stopper4

    stopper4 Member

    Jan 24, 2000
    Houston
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    Oh, I forgot Russia. Them too.
     
  10. -cman-

    -cman- New Member

    Apr 2, 2001
    Clinton, Iowa
    Yeah, that Franklin Deleano Roosevelt was universally reviled. I hear they used to burn him in effigy in Trafalgar Square circa 1944.
     
  11. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    However, as far as the real voters are concerned. what Kerry would do is important.
     
  12. dfb547490

    dfb547490 New Member

    Feb 9, 2000
    The Heights
    That's nice. Hopefully they will think about that on Nov. 2 when the AMERICAN people decide our next leader.

    Stopper, I read a couple months ago about a poll taken in Israel where Bush's approval rating was something like 85% IIRC.
     
  13. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    United States
    If you could provide quotes from the leaders of say...Vietnam, India, Brazil, South Africa, and Saudi Arabia expressing their displeausre with Washington that would go along way in proving your "point." Thanks.
     
  14. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    What happens in American, affects the rest of the world. If you don't believe me, watch markets around the world after the results of the election are announced.
     
  15. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
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    Funny Funny... how about King George? Would he count?
     
  16. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    United States
    Technically, yes. However, despite what he would have told you, he doesn't represent the rest of the world.
     
  17. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
    Northern Virginia
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    United States
    How about King Louis of France...does he count?
     
  18. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    United States
    Was he ruling France at the time of Washington, if so, then yes. But I'm pretty sure the French liked us at that point in time. You know, the whole pissing off Britain thing.
     
  19. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
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    ...and that Kennedy, man was he hated. His speech in Berlin went over like a lead balloon. It will be a long time before streets around the world are named Rue Kennedy, Avenida Kennedy or Kennedystrasse.
     
  20. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
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    Just out of curiosity, how many electoral votes do these 35 countries make up?
     
  21. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
    NYC
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    Spain
    Well, after the Bush administration managed to completely undermine everything that Kim Dae-Jung had accomplished with the Sunshine Policy (which admittedly had its drawbacks, but was having at least some beneficial effects on the political climate of the peninsula as opposed to what we're faced with now), and effectively ignored Noh Moo-Hyun, it's pretty safe to say that South Korea - lest we forget, one of our most vital allies - wants Bush gone.
     
  22. Frankfurt Blue

    Sep 3, 2003
    Doytshlund
    Pissing off Britain? The country was divided over the American colonies and the scuffle over there in the struggle for independence. Like throughout history, there are those for and against, just they don't teach the complexities and diversity of history in most schools. Let's keep it simple and glamorous for the kids.

    At the end of the day, it is for the people of the USofA to decide who THEIR leader is.
     
  23. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
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    FC Edmonton
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    Canada
    Isreal had a poll which showed people want Bush over Kerry by a very wide margin.

    As for those Canadians who love Kerry, they'll be in for a rude surprise if he gets into the White House. We already know here in the West that he wants to keep the border closed to Canadian beef.

    It ain't for health reasons at all.
     
  24. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Of course it is Frank. But there's no doubt that most of the world will breathe a sigh of relief if Kerry gets elected.
     
  25. Frankfurt Blue

    Sep 3, 2003
    Doytshlund
    I think it is a bit too far when we look to the USA for everything. The world rotates around the USA, so the general belief goes. Much of the world economy is now centred around the Far East and in particular China and Japan. The world has been in a state of flux for the last decade since the fall of the Communist Bloc, and the USA is still trying to find it's feet like most other countries.

    All said and done, Bush/Kerry where is the difference? There will not and cannot be a sudden abrupt turn of policy.
     

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