The Union and "The Process" Catch-All

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Terrier1966, May 6, 2018.

  1. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Interesting to see which team some of the players chose to play for.
     
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  2. Starpork

    Starpork Member+

    Nov 12, 2013
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The MLS version of the process clearly is just shitting it up until the league steps in and finds a new owner because they’re so embarrassed.
     
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  3. Ascalz

    Ascalz BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 18, 2010
    130
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, it could be argued that the Union are doing their version of The Process(tm) but given the fact that it hasn't been proven their academy kids can play AND the fact that they actually just give draft picks away for guys who never see the field (Hello Charlie Davies and Adam Najem) shows that they are less like the 76ers and more like the Cleveland Browns.
     
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  4. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While The Process™ belongs to the Sixers, the Union can claim the title of The Processed™

    Processed things are never as good as their whole counterparts, and are always cheaper than the real deal.
     
  5. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The process was about collecting players and picks as assets. The Union have no assets and the way the league is constructed, you really can't stockpile and sell, trade, etc. Don't make me link the Hinkie manifesto
     
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  6. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which shape Chicken McNugget are the Union?
    1. The bell
    2. The ball
    3. The boot
    4. The bow tie (aka the bone)
     
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  7. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would welcome the Chivas plan in Philly.
     
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  8. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well.....teams can and have stockpiled Garber Bucks (various forms of Allocation Money). It's one of the ways Orlando reshaped their roster this season and how Chicago transformed their roster a year ago.

    The Union have tried this, and failed at it since their inception.



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  9. CITY&UNION

    CITY&UNION Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The guy's right. All of the quotes and reporting I've heard since ZOLO tells me that a lot of the players were brought to the Union by agents rather than directly scouted by our nonexistent scouting network. Not having a scouting network doesn't give us an excuse. I've heard about Vermes and his big board countless times where they have targets 5 deep in every position that actually fit their system. The point about looking at WhoScored, WyScout, InStat, and even Football Manger can help you make a more informed decision than being approached by agents and looking at their highlight tapes.
     
  10. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    That's the thing, the Union could have unlimited money and still be terrible. They're a poorly run team, and it has both everything and nothing to do with money.
     
  11. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, this sums it up so well! Couldn't have said it better!
     
  12. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Which was the original point...there is more than one way to the top and "stockpiling picks" is only helpful if you can make good picks and build a good team. Saying "we meant to do that" when you come in last will buy you some time but eventually you have to produce more than simply qualifying for the playoffs.

    And no matter what sport, the idea that you just grab some good players and then claim your right as the best implies nobody else has a better plan or can assemble a better team. The competition is working as well, they are drafting people too and assembling their own teams. That might mean something that doesn't work out, like Gerrard, but it might mean they go find some 5'4" Italian striker.

    Or their GM and coach might just be better, and with lesser picks they still beat you.

    Presuming more money would win MLS or more draft picks automatically win the NBA flies in the face of what sports are about. Sure, we've seen big money teams be successful, but there are a lot of big money teams who come in places 2-6 as well. Ask Arsenal and Chelsea if big money assures consistent success.

    And don't get me started on the ability to stay good...lots of teams win one championship. A well run organization is consistently good and can adapt to changing landscapes.
     
  13. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    50% of the Philly GM’s gone in a week
     
  14. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    2/5 would be 40%...
     
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  15. Terrier1966

    Terrier1966 Member

    Nov 19, 2016
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Oh, we’re counting the Flyers?
     
  16. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2/4 from teams not named Eagles.
     
  17. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  18. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why do you have to drag Philip Johnson into this??
     

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