The U.S. U-16 Program (2017/18 thread)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by ussoccer97531, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: citizenship

    Has anyone ever actually tried asking Nyeman what his citizenship status is? The few times I’ve tried to talk to him, he’s been responsive. IIRC it took him like a week to respond last time, but he did eventually.

    He probably won’t respond while hes in Europe, but he might when he gets back
     
  2. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    I understand that to play international tournaments it is necessary to have citizenship (even if they are not recognized by FIFA), last year Toure and Bohui could play the torneo delle nazioni since they had citizenship. To attend the national camps it is not necessary to have citizenship (as in the case of Ferreira)
     
  3. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
     
  4. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
     
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  5. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    its kind of incredible venezuela even is able to field youth national teams at this point. hope they provide some uplift against everyone but the usa
     
  6. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Is there any info on who scored for us and who played?
     
  7. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
    Sealy scored the goal

    Believe the lineup was - Zuluaga; Hall, Huckaby, Kinzner, Gomez; Kitahara, Edelman, Nyeman; Not sure how front three lined up but it was Paredes, Cowell, Sealy
     
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  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    First 23 for '03:

    GK: Jones, Krenecki, Cordes
    DF: Cuevas, Quinones, Walls, Che, Ferkranus, Huckaby, Gomez, Sorenson
    MF: Leyva, Chifamba, Casas, Karumanchi, Nyeman, Garcia, Sarver, Freeman, Perez
    FW: Pepi, Roou, Bohui

    Second 23 for '03:

    GK: Kaplan, Acevedo, Hangi
    DF: Hall, Rainey, Ferguson, Eichem, Kinzner, Carrillo, Greene, A. Miscic
    MF: Pariano, Wangsness, Killeen, Garay, Hernandez, Aaronson, Paredes, Cardenas S. Miscic
    FW: Monis, Cowell, Sealy

    Jones
    Cuevas-Che-Walls-Gomez
    Leyva-Chifamba
    Nyeman
    Sarver-Pepi-Garcia

    Kaplan
    Hall-Eichem-Ferguson-Greene
    Pariano
    Hernandez-Aaronson
    Paredes-Sealy-Cowell

    Others on my list.

    Monge, Kenison, Mathews, Fragle, Amponsah, Stoup, Genenbacher, Morris
     
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  9. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Call-ups are being sent out for an upcoming U16 camp in California. '03s F Matthew Roou (Shattuck-St. Mary's) and GK Mitchell Budler (Union) are in. Budler was last with the U16s in June 2018 and this will be Roou's first US call-up ever. Someone in the know says an '03 Sounders player is in and it's not Kinzer, Kitahara, or McMillan, and it might be speedy F/W Lomeri Torujo for his first US call, but we'll see what happens.
     
  10. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    '03 Sounders CM Edgar Serrano updated his IG bio to include U16 US National Team, so he's almost certainly in, and it'd be his first call-up to the US at any level. I don't believe he's related to Ray Serrano. Not sure yet if Torujo is in. Torujo is apparently US-born and of South Sudan descent.
     
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  11. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the Sounders, it sounds like it will be Serrano and two other expected call-ups after all, Kinzer and Kitara. We'll see.
     
  12. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Good to see Gomez back in a US camp. Ha! That kid just goes back and forth on a monthly basis :) Of those four names the new one to USYNT camps is Collin Smith. A player who moved to FCD from Solar in 2018, and now serves as the captain of the FCD U17s. He's a winger/forward. Kind of a very direct player that relies on physical attributes.

    I kinda wonder if Jonathan Gomez would have been called up to the US U17s if George Bello hadn't been made available. Cuz he's a flip-flopping dual national there for the nation that truly commits to him first.

     
  13. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Jonathan related to Johan Gomez?
     
  14. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Smith is roster filler. He doesn't have the technical or tactical skills to be a good pro player, IMO, but its a U-16 roster. Not every player on the roster is going to be a great prospect.

    I doubt that Gomez would've been on the U-17 roster. @zlebmada asked him about Gomez in an interview, and Wicky deliberately avoided the question, refusing to even mention Gomez when answering the question. It seems like he prefers Armour and Tolkin, which I think says a lot about his talent evaluation.

    Brothers.
     
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  15. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here's the latest camp: https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...r-u16-bnt-talent-id-camp-in-chula-vista-calif

    BTW, I'd wager a small amount that the USSF first found out about Ralph Orquin through my BigSoccer thread started over a year ago. I found him simply by digging into Liga MX's website. He wouldn't be the first prospect they discovered through BigSoccer. Which is not a bad thing at all; they should be monitoring it for new prospects that pop up.
    http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/ralph-orquin-at-club-américa.2086076/
     
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  16. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    All the main names are there. I suspect this group of players could come close to beating the U-17 NT. It's a more talented group of players from top to bottom, IMO.

    One thing I noticed is that Darren Yapi ('04) is on the roster. I didn't check to see if there are any other 04's on the roster, but I wonder why he was called into this group when he's not a regular in the U-15 NT age group. Admittedly, I've not seen him play, so I can't given an assessment if he's one of the better 04's.
     
  17. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some of the more notable first-time call-ups include:
    Shattuck-St. Mary's F Matthew Roou
    RSL W Christopher Garcia
    NYRB F Thomas Tulgar
    Timbers AM Gerardo Duran
    Crew CM Anthony Hernandez
    DCU FB Adam Lundegard
    St. Louis FC FB Kyle Genenbacher

    I believe Rapids F/W Darren Yapi is the lone '04, but I may be wrong.
     
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  18. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles


    U-16 BNT TALENT ID CAMP ROSTER BY POSITION (CLUB)

    GOALKEEPERS (6): Andrew Cordes (Colorado Rapids), Lucas Hatsios (Charlotte Independence), Gavin Krenecki (Sporting Kansas City), Andrew Noel (New York Red Bulls), Anthony Ramos (LA Galaxy), Andres Zuluaga (Inter Miami CF)

    DEFENDERS (19): Adrian Aguilar (LA Galaxy), Prince Amponsah (New York City FC), Justin Che (FC Dallas), Kyle Genenbacher (Saint Louis FC), Jonathan Gomez (FC Dallas), Jacob Greene (D.C. United), Noah Hall (Columbus Crew SC), Sebastian Hernandez (LA Galaxy), Issac Homer (Portland Timbers), Dylan Hooper (Sporting Kansas City), Dante Huckaby (Philadelphia Union), Eric Kinzner (Seattle Sounders FC), Adam Lundegard (D.C. United), Jalen Neal (LA Galaxy), Ralph Orquin (Club America/MEX), Kayden Pierre (Sporting Kansas City), Anthony Sorenson (Philadelphia Union), Kobe Stoup (Atlanta United FC), Casey Walls (San Jose Earthquakes)

    MIDFIELDERS (16): Paxten Aaronson (Philadelphia Union), Alejandro Alvarado (LA Galaxy), Javier Casas (Chicago Fire), Elton Chifamaba (Columbus Crew SC), Gerardo Duran (Portland Timbers), Daniel Edelman (Players Development Academy), Jeremy Garay (D.C. United), Brian Gutierrez (Chicago Fire), Anthony Hernandez (Columbus Crew SC), Sota Kitahara (Seattle Sounders FC), Jack McGlynn (Philadelphia Union), Abel Mendoza (Real Salt Lake), Moses Nyeman (D.C. United), Nicholas Pariano (Philadelphia Union), Daniel Rios (Houston Dynamo), Edgar Serrano (Seattle Sounders FC)

    FORWARDS (18): Ronald Arevalo (Cedar Stars Academy - Bergen), Caden Clark (Barca Academy), Christopher Garcia (Real Salt Lake), Arnold Giron (Los Angeles Football Club), Mauricio Gutierrez (Beach FC), Agnes Patrick Kader (Philadelphia Union), Selmir Miscic (Philadelphia Union), Alex Monis (Chicago Fire), Kevin Paredes (D.C. United), Matthew Roou (Shattuck-Saint Mary’s), Samuel Sarver (Columbus Crew SC), Dante Sealy (FC Dallas), Collin Smith (FC Dallas), Thomas Tulgar (New York Red Bulls), Aidan Wolf (Columbus Crew SC), Tyler Wolff (Atlanta United FC), Darren Yapi (Colorado Rapids), Brandon Zelaya (San Jose Earthquakes)


    Technical Staff: Medhi Ballouchy (New York City FC), Garrett Biller (TID Manager - Central), Henry Brauner (TID Manager - West), Cris da Silva (TID Manager - East), Landon Donovan (YNT Coach), Gene Klein (YNT Network Scout - Mid-America), Ian Mork (YNT Network Scout - Northern Calif.), Cristiano Scapolo (YNT Coach), Larry Sunderland (FC Cincinnati)
     
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  19. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two things I wasn't aware of. I'm on record of being a big fan of Sorenson after watching him for 10 minutes over a year ago, so I'm pretty much an expert.
     
  20. Dylan Fisher

    Dylan Fisher Member

    Borussia Dortmund
    United States
    Apr 12, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any notable absentees or inclusions?
     
  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think Eliot Jones is injured, otherwise he's a big omission. Best keeper in this age group, IMO.

    A few players whose game I rate that weren't called in include Marcus Ferkrankus (CB), Mitchell Ferguson (CB), Colby Quinones (RB), Tarun Karumanchi (DM), Jonathan Perez (#10, called into the Mexican program). I wouldn't say there are any big omissions.

    Some of the best 03's are in the U-17 NT right now (Leyva, Pepi, Cuevas, Freeman), so they'd probably be in this team, as well, but they aren't omissions. It's still a plenty strong group without them. As good as those players are, I'd say the best few 03's (Nyeman, Chifamba, Gomez) are all in this camp, so its a star-studded camp, and I think this is the player pool's star-studded age group, so anytime the 03's have a YNT camp, it's worth paying attention to.

    Among the more notable inclusions, I'd say that Matthew Roou, Christopher Garcia and Kevin Paredes are among some of the lesser capped players in this age group who have a lot of ability.
     
  22. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Landon Donovan (YNT Coach)
     
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  23. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Zelaya from San Jose over homegrown Cade Cowell is interesting.
     
  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think Cowell is injured.
     
  25. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #225 ChuckMe92, Sep 21, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2019
    Jonny Perez was almost certainly part of the LA Galaxy youth side that apparently scrimmaged the US U16s today. Jonathan Gomez's IG story today has him and Perez hanging out at US U16 camp (Gomez in US gear and Perez in LAG gear). It appears the US won 2-0, one assist by RSL's Christopher Garcia, don't know who else scored or assisted. It seems Perez did not make it to Mexico U16 camp for whatever reason.

    Edit: I don't care to promote my tweets but you can see that Jonathan Gomez himself "liked" my tweet about this. Though not as a US player, Perez is currently at US U16 camp instead of Mexico U16 camp.
     

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