The U.S. U-16 Program (2017/18 thread)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by ussoccer97531, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    No. Zelalem, Ferreira, Adu. There have been a number of players called into YNT's before they became citizens.

    If he was a citizen, he would likely be in the U-17 NT for games that count, so I suspect its more likely that he's not a citizen yet.
     
  2. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    You may be right about his citizenship. But I was asking specifically about playing for the U.S. in a competitive game against another country, not just being called in for a camp.
     
  3. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think only in WC qualifying and WC itself. In the intermediary ages it must be ok. So not in U17, U20 and U23 qualifying, WC's or Olympics.
     
  4. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Are these rules published somewhere? Can anybody not cap-tied to someone else literally play in non-FIFA cap-tying matches for anyone else at any time? Or do they ask for a mailing address or something? Does a phone bill work?
     
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  5. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
    This says Nyeman had the assist in their 1-1 draw v. Czech Reupblic


    This is a solid age group, need to hurry up and hire a full time U-16 coach
     
  6. ussoccer97531

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    The goal also came off a corner.

    That Che listing must be wrong. He's playing CB for FC Dallas.
     
  7. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    This group is very talented but may lack depth. This cycle will be that of the U20 world cup of 2023, so there will be a lot of time to develop them.
    With the best players of 2004 this team could look much better.
    This generation could be one of the best.
     
  8. ussoccer97531

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    Where do you think it lacks depth? I think it lacks depth at CF and GK, but I think it has good depth everywhere else.
     
  9. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
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    United States
    I think there are norms around this, but not hard and fast rules.

    I have a hazy memory of FIFA getting annoyed with USSF when Bunbury played in a Jan camp friendly before his one-time switch paperwork officially went through. Maybe Canada complained?

    I doubt anyone much cares about a friendly camp at this level, though.
     
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  10. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #185 Dave Marino-Nachison, May 15, 2019
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    But at least Bunbury was a citizen!

    I'm sure you're right and this matters relatively little, but I confess I'm still curious. It seems odd to me that, even in a competition like this at a level like this, that it would be generally considered fine for countries to play noncitizens in games against other countries.

    FIFA statutes don't seem to refer only to FIFA competitions. And the use of "teams" instead of teams might imply YNTs.

    Any person holding a permanent nationality that is not dependent on residence in a certain country is eligible to play for the representative teams of the association of that country.
    https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/the-fifa-statutes-2018.pdf?cloudid=whhncbdzio03cuhmwfxa
     
  11. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    I think like you that GK and CF are weak.
    GK I think Jones should be the team's first goalkeeper. Cordes and Krenecki have level, but I think Slonina could be the second goalkeeper.
    CF Pepi should be a starter. There is not much talent in this position although the coach could try with some other player like Cowell (or maybe Toure) if they can play as # 9. Christian Torres '04 from LAFC I think he could be considered in this team, although he is not even a considered player in his age group.
     
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  12. ussoccer97531

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    I think Sarver is being used as the back up to Pepi in this age group. Not a natural #9, but he can be effective running the channels.
     
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  13. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    Sealy is not # 9 on this team?
     
  14. ussoccer97531

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    I don’t believe I’ve ever seen him play as anything other than a winger.
     
  15. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member

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    Sep 22, 2017
    #190 bigsoccertst1, May 16, 2019
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    Your concern is justified. Some national associations tend to flaunt rules for youth team call-ups, till they get caught.

    Articles #5-8 of Eligibility to play for representative teams (FIFA Statutes document you referenced), indicate a key requirement: "eligible to represent more than one association on account of his nationality".

    If Nyeman lacks an US passport, then it makes you wonder how he was allowed to play internationally against Czech Republic.
    We are speculating about his lack of US passport, though.

    Although it does not apply to Nyeman's case:
    Youth matches can cap-tie players, as Article #8 explains.
    It works against a player who gains a new nationality, after representing another country at any football level (see Funes-ARG-MEX case).

    FIFA does not distinguish between official and friendly youth matches. Its International Match calendar does not list any youth matches. Therefore clubs can ignore requests for all youth team call-ups.
     
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    That was the whole point of my post! If it means he has citizenship, great. If he means he does not but received some kind of clearance that made it OK, maybe also great.
     
  17. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member

    United States
    Sep 22, 2017
    @Dave Marino-Nachison , I bet Nyeman already has his US passport, otherwise he would have trouble requesting an entry visa to Europe with an African passport.

    ... and I meant "flout rules" not "flaunt rules"... yikes.
     
  18. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Not a problem to go with a Green Card.
     
  19. Luksarus

    Luksarus Member

    United States
    Jul 27, 2018
    Chifamba would be in the same situation.
     
  20. bigsoccertst1

    bigsoccertst1 Member

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    Sep 22, 2017
  21. butters59

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  22. ussoccer97531

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    Nyeman was also wearing the armband for this game. It’s good to see that his leadership is held in such high regard by the U-16 coaching staff on his first appearance in the age group against international competition.
     
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  23. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

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    Jun 8, 2017
    4-0 win vs Venezuela
     
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  24. Peretz48

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    Nov 9, 2003
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  25. ckajMonet

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