The Trump Presidency V: New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies

It may explain why FLOTUS's anti-bullying campaign never got off the ground.

 

If there's anyone outside Trump and his cronies that is benefitting from Trump's dumpster fire administration, George W Bush has got to be up there. Bush II has seen a massive boost in relative recent presidency rankings and his reputation as a result of Trump.

 

I do not recall taking any kind of position about the racial breakdown of whose families this POTUS calls or does not call. You made the following claim...

The above did not happen or you would have easily been able to find the link you read it in. I am in no way refuting what you stated as a support of Trump because it is not. Like many that frequent P&CE, when someone posts something that factually doesn't jive they deserve to be called out on it.

Trump is a heaving sack of shit, is it really necessary to make up things to reinforce what the majority of us on here already know? Doesn't Trump already do a good enough job of that on his own by virtue of simply waking up in the morning?

 

Firstly, the roots of the housing bubble, by most accounts, were planted in the Clinton administration. So that is a bipartisan failure spanning multiple administrations. And while I certainly won't bother to defend the complete f*ckery that was the Iraq War, I would absolutely take Bush the second over Trump 1000 out of 1000 times with zero hesitation, especially with a more tolerable VP.

 

Well if you do remember from where the link originated from I would suggest you no longer use them as a source. I used the same source as Josh Marshall from TPM referenced and there is nothing there that would indicate that what you posted could have happened.

 

I was trying to say that in this hypothetical, I would especially prefer Bush if he had a more tolerable VP than Cheney, because Cheney is just well-and-truly terrible. Bush had a platform in the 2000 election of "no nation-building", and I genuinely believe he was sincere about that, but then radically realpolitik neoconservative elements within his administration, led by Cheney, pushed him in a completely different direction.

If you buy an engine, it was bad when you bought it, and you ignore warning signs before it breaks down, both the manufacturer and you are at fault for that. There's a blame pie chart there that's basically fifty-fifty.

I have no idea what banal point this is trying to make.

 

Are you trying to pin that position on me? Because that isn't my position. I think it's pretty clear that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were pretty peripheral players, although I don't think they helped. To be honest, my whole understanding of the housing crisis is at a relatively basic level, and a lot of the more advanced reasoning regarding the roles that things like derivatives and credit-default swaps have in it is going over my head, but as far as I'm aware the majority of the more credible narratives regarding the housing crisis and its causes begin with the Clinton or even the Reagan administration, not the Bush administration.

 

This is where I'd love for Jamie to still be posting and telling us how crap and liberal snoops is...

https://www.snopes.com/melania-trump-body-double/

Is This Melania Trump's Body Double?

 

Thinking of how poorly our current president is doing, I have been a proponent of Pence being better, if only because of his stability and not necessarily his politics. Then I heard this:

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/18/55852...lationship-to-trump-his-public-role-is-fawnin

(which was based off of: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/23/the-danger-of-president-pence)

I no longer thing Pence is competent as a leader, let alone learning how deeply connected he is to the Kochs.