The Trump Presidency Ocho :: It Can't Go On. A.K.A. We All Gotta Duck / When The Shit Hits the Fan

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  1. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    My job back in that lifetime was to work on the fixes the the FAA had come up with for problems with planes.
    The DC10 cargo door problem was a nasty one.

    One I worked on with the 737 was after the skin blew back just behind the cockpit sucking a flight attendant out over Hawaii. We had to inspect and fix the fleet.

    Another interesting fix back then, and still. Was the DB Cooper lock for the 727. It was a simple fix but effective. The lock was just worked by the slipstream. At a certain speed the slipstream lifted a small paddle and locked the aft stairway so it couldn't be opened from inside the plane. When the plane stopped gravity would drop it into the open position.

    With all the input from flight crews there was always something to fix.
     
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  2. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
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    I can't wait until someone starts that this prosecution is "class warfare."

    People aren't focusing on the real victims, the well-off parents who have to live with the thought that people believe that their useless sons and daughters got into university because of a bribe.
     
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  3. Chicago76

    Chicago76 Member+

    Jun 9, 2002
    #allmatriculationsmatter
     
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  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    You guys are missing the point of view of the real victims here.

    Universities expect to extrac very large donations from billionaires to have their kids get in.

    This scandal is devaluing the amount a university may extrac if you can do the same for a relatively cheap way of bribing a coach.
     
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  5. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    Trump's sons went to Penn and Georgetown. I see one getting into Penn as a legacy but I guessing Trump had to write an extra check to get his son into Georgetown.
     
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  6. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    As I wrote elsewhere, legacy without money means little (if anything at all). It was always about the benjamins (so to speak). Cash got the first kid into Penn and got the second into Georgetown.
     
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  7. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    Whenever "legacy" comes up I think of this.
     
  8. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    "He's a legacy from Harrisburg."
     
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  9. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    He was a fraternity legacy, as I recall. Fortunately, a legacy for the right sort of fraternity for him -- a desperate one.
     
  10. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    As I posted in the Income Inequality thread: the difference between SOP and fraud is that SOP involves bribing the institutions, whereas fraud involves bribing individual representatives of the institutions.
     
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  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    You're both correct. There are two important aspects of this story that went generally unreported, and you guys got both of them.
     
  12. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
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    United States
    I suspect the difference here is more about just how rich the parents are. We obviously don't know all of the names involved in the scandal, but it seems like they aren't billionaires... Not to mention the endowments for most of these universities is so large that even a few million is just a drop in the hat.

    It may be more of a situation where it is a hell of a lot more expensive to get your name on a university building (and little Johnny into the college) than it used to be and, even tho they are rich, they aren't rich enough.
     
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  13. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    This guy paid $75 million merely to attach his name to an honors award. Although in fairness, buying off the University of Chicago business school is about as expensive a proposition as exists in higher education. That school is loaded (as you would expect).

    https://news.uchicago.edu/story/alu...llion-support-university-chicago-booth-school
     
  14. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Arsenal FC
    Loaded in part because of David Booth giving them $300 million in 2008.
     
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  15. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    They're not lacking for wealthy alums.
     
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  16. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    France
    My assumption is the first proved so stupid the price tag to get the second into Penn went way up, hence sending him to Georgetown.
     
  17. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    A reasonable guess.
     
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  18. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    SOP = $50m
    Fraud = $50k

    Hmmm...tough choice. :unsure:
     
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  19. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
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    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    FYP...
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Does former Red Bull star Seth Stammler count? ;)
     
  21. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    It makes sense, really. The number of legacies would increase exponentially and you would soon have more legacies than space in the class.
     
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  22. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Nope.
     
  23. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I think it was more popular back in the day. But now, with 10 or even 15 applicants for each undergrad slot at the fanciest schools, why take a legacy unless cash comes with that?
     
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  24. Yoshou

    Yoshou Fan of the CCL Champ

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
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    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haven't most schools ended legacy enrollment because of this reason?
     
  25. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    You mean Qusay? The memo line on the check said "6 years of peace & quiet"
     
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