The Trump Presidency Ocho :: It Can't Go On. A.K.A. We All Gotta Duck / When The Shit Hits the Fan

This is probably one of the coolest things I've ever read on these boards. What an incredible story.

 

I don't know if this has been posted on a different thread (Mod feel free to move if, if that is the case), but wanted to share the pic. This story got me so angry (and still are) this week. Unf*****conscionable. The next congress should drag Nielsen and her goons on Capitol Hill and explain how the hell this happened under their watch....

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So much Winning
Only the best people

Zinke is out after almost 2 years of mayhem.

Not to worry though he must have 10-12 people to replace him.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/tr...-zinke-leaving-brags-lasted-almost-two-years/

 

I didn't realize that being obdurate was a pre-existing condition.

 

Holy shit......Great optics here. Boys to the left, girls to the right.

Nazi Germany circa 1940

N... America circa 2018


You haff people in the old country?

This is their way of not losing the kids this time around. But man, it looks bad.

 

I’m no lawyer but IMHO this is no good..

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/12/rudy-giuliani-20-witnesses/

“I can produce an enormous number of witnesses,” claimed the former New York mayor and current Trump attorney. “I can produce 20 witnesses to tell you what he was concerned about.”

Guiliani made the comments, which indicate that a broader than previously known circle of people knew about the payments, on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos. The witnesses, according to Giuliani, would be able to confirm that Trump was worried that the women, including Stormy Daniels, represented a threat to safety of his family.

 

Well, ya never know with them porn stars-- she mighta shown up at his place with a axe or a uzi at any time-- he had to at least try to keep her happy...

Plus she mighta told Melania about his lil mushroom-- or worse, told Ivanka.

 

See... I told you immigrants were coming over here and sponging off our NHS

Nah. Hope you're OK dude

 

I would be willing to accept this defense. Before Gary Hart.

 

I mean I had to pay for it.

 

Are you sure that's not the system of keeping order on the Mexican side of the border that is used by immigrant groups since the US and Mexico are incompetent?

 

That's the report out now. They hadn't mentioned Mexico when I saw it.

 

Just busting yer chops mate

 

Well, yes, you had presumably to pay the NHS surcharge of £200 (or maybe £150). That wouldn't even cover one doctor's visit here.

As to your other point, back in the pre-ACA days when creditable coverage was an issue, NHS coverage was considered creditable. Of course, with the current clown show, there's no guarantee it would be if it became an issue in the future.

 

NHS insurance should be fine. As long as you're not from one of those shithole countries, or a blue state.

 

That's an interesting question and I'm not sure what the answer is.

Bear in mind there IS no NHS 'health insurance', as such, as the NHS is funded out of general taxation... at least, nominally. Actually, of course, you have to have paid national insurance contributions, (which also covers a pension), to receive NHS coverage in the relevant period, usually the period prior to receiving the care.

But, obviously, brummie isn't a UK national so whether any payments he's made during this period will cover a claim he makes on the American healthcare system is an interesting question.

Maybe @M knows or @usscouse know? I believed they've been globe-trotting for many years now

 

Pretty sure this is incorrect. There's no requirement to be paying NI to be eligible for the NHS. The requirement is to be "habitually resident". I think about 90% of NHS funding comes out of general taxation.

I already answered just above your post The issue isn't about "making a claim", it's having "creditable coverage" that will allow him to get insurance if he moves back, without all the pre-existing condition nonsense. With the ACA , it's not relevant given insurers can't discriminate on that basis. The concern will be what would happen if the ACA goes away.

 

I left Southhampton on a cruise ship to NZ some 50 years ago. England/Britain was a whole different country back then. A country that's seen massive changes, massive since then. Not always for the better.

I do know that in that time the NHS managed to kill off my brother, father then mother. Through inattention, ineptness. Or just plain "who gives a shit"
Best not ask me how the NHS works.

I get excellent health care here with my Medicaid and Medicare without waiting times and we have an excellent MD.

Just a a little anecdote. Just before I left blighty my mother went for a minor throat op for her thyroid.
I get a call in work that my mother is dying in hospital. When I get there they tell me she's stable but had to have an emergency tracheotomy. The surgeon had cut by mistake into her diaphragm and she nearly bled out. He actually said to me "Well now she'll be just like Liz Taylor.
It too 2 policemen to stop me modifying his trachy. She was stuck with that tube in her throat the rest of her life.
Don't don't get me going on the 3 deaths.

 

Comey is pissed and unloading on the Republicans.

Comey after second round of closed-door testimony: “Republicans used to understand that the actions of a President matter, the words of a President matter, the rule of law matters, and the truth matters. Where are those Republicans today?” pic.twitter.com/u1WbTI101n

— Matt Shuham (@mattshuham) December 17, 2018

 

Internet Research Agency kept up its efforts after 2016. The language & rhetoric is similar to what Don Cheeto uses.

The Russian trolls targeted American media outlets that were covering the story, such as CNN and The New York Times, and pursued a broader assault on American information sources. The purpose of the campaign was to sow confusion and blur the lines between fact and fiction. The researchers found that the trolls accomplished their goals with "skill and precision."

"It used derision and disparagement in content targeting the Right-leaning pages, to create and amplify the narrative that the whole investigation was nonsense, that [former FBI Director James] Comey and [special counsel Robert] Mueller were corrupt, and that the emerging Russia stories were a 'weird conspiracy' pushed by 'liberal crybabies,'" the researchers wrote.

The trolling effort persisted after Mueller was appointed in May 2017 to lead the investigation into potential links between Trump and the Russian government. After his appointment, Mueller was personally targeted by the intelligence service, according to the researchers.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/17/russia-trolled-people-worried-about-russian-trolls-on-social-media-report.html?&qsearchterm=tactics and tropes

 

Well, it's strange because I was told explicitly by both the HMRC and DWP, (in relation to my brother), that you DID have to have valid NI contributions to receive care. He didn't qualify at that time but he was OK so it didn't matter.

But, since then, I've received care despite not having paid in contributions because I was caring for my father and then my mother.

The actual issue about where the money comes from and how it's allocated to various costs is a moot point as I believe we've discussed before.

Yeah, I was under the impression that the ACA altered the position.

 

Sorry to hear dude. I and my family have generally had good care but, as you suggest, that doesn't help others, including you as it turns out