The things we hear returns

U13G on Saturday on a wet, muddy field. Fairly early on:

Player: "Don't listen to the parents!"
Me: "That's some good advice."

 

Adult league last night. About ready to blow the whistle and white player asks his buddy what kind of game he can expect out of me. Buddy replies: “Don’t talk back to him and watch it. He is a stickler for the Rules.”

Mission accomplished.

 

Oh, sorry. Her back was to the field and the ball was in front of her.

It was way in. She had her arms about a 2 feet in front of her.

He knew it was in.

 

First post season tournament for HS this week. Two fairly low seeded girls teams but the game ends up better than expected. Very few chippy fouls, but a couple pushes and a kick from behind are called. As the parents seem to feel each foul is causing their team to lose the game the shrieks from parents are intensifying even though players are quite calm.

Finally on a throw in the middle of the field a defender is riding the back of the attacking receiving player fairly aggressively to keep her from making a turn. The smaller receiving player goes down from the pressure from her back, a reasonable foul (and was given).

But from behind me (as AR) I hear a LOUD shriek from a woman at the very top row "THAT'S A RED CARD!"

You would have thought it was an ankle breaking double footed tackle by her response, but no, just a little push in the back on an inbound throw-in in midfield.

I will admit to laughing loud enough to probably be heard from those close by.

 

"Hands!!"

HS BJV
Under pressure, Defender releases a pass to the keeper about 30 yards backward. As the ball is nearing the keeper, an Attacking player yells, "Hands!!' The meaning is You can use your hands, trying to entice the keeper to pick the ball up. I was AR on this end. The CR did not notice the misconduct. and the play continued without incident. Of course, had the keeper picked the ball up, I would have intervened...

Just another thing to add to the list of Leave it!!, Mine!! and Hah!! as verbal misconduct.

 

But, But, But . . . It was a foul from behind. That has to be a RED Card!

 

"Leave it" and "Mine" are always misconduct?

 

In the stands last night for once, sons team had a non conf game against a small Christian school before the playoff games start on Thursday. Christian school is not very strong and has some girls mixed in to make a full team. Son's team is up 3-1 in the first half. Of course all the parents know I am also a ref so whenever they yell something, they look at me to see if they were right. (annoying, but part of the job is trying to educate the masses)

Son's team crosses the ball in, defender plays the ball off his foot that bounces towards the keeper that makes a pretty good dive to pick it up. Many parents Yell "Pass back!!" as I shake my head. One of the parents asks me if I would've called that. I told him that it has to be a deliberate pass to the keeper, and does he think that the defender TRIED to almost score on his keeper down 3-1.

"Oh" is the typical reply back...

 

Of course. Don't you know that the rules say you have to put a name on it?!? (Oh, wait, that's one of those weird myths that keeps cropping up . . ).

More seriously, I don't think @jayhonk was suggesting that they were always, or even usually, misconduct. They are, of course, only misconduct when uttered in an unsporting way to trick an opponent into thinking the speaker is a teammate.

 

B19. Defender attempts to clear ball, which slams into arm of attacker three feet away. Defenders turn to AR (me) "Hands! C'mo, didn't you see that!?!" Me: "That was NOT deliberate." Defenders smile.

 

The first time I heard this myth was from the sister and mother of my son's teammate, while waiting near me through the practice-ending scrimmage. One player shouted "My ball!" as he ran full-tilt to a loose ball and the sister said "Don't say that during a game - you'll get a yellow card", backed up by the mom saying "Amanda got one for that last weekend."

I didn't argue, but it is one of those questions I ask referees when we are having friendly conversations. A surprising number (not zero) agree with sis and mom.

 

So you're the one that keeps reinforcing it ....

This is one thing we DON'T get from England. Not that they don't think you "have to put a name on it". They just don't think it's a caution - play should be stopped and restart with an IFK.

 

What are they stopping play for? If for verbally distracting then the LOTG state the player must be cautioned - one of a few instances where the laws clearly state must.

 

I'm not sure "must" in the LOTG generally means what "must" means in English . . .

Simply put, they are MSU. Apparently the myth about "putting a name on it" is even more pervasive in England, such that referees at lower levels ref to that myth and aware an IFK--despite there being no possible basis in law for it. (If pressed, I suspect some would assert that it is a subset of impeding.)

 

:raises hand: I did so my first time ever weekend before last, kid right in the center circle screams right in an opponents ear, almost head butted him it was so close and very loud. Whistle, YC. The coach for the team I called it against coach yells at the kid "What was that!? Get back and defend, that's good refereeing" as the kid started to complain.

I am not sure what else must means. In my opinion if you stop the game for one of the items listed in Law 12 you are expected to give a YC. If you stop for something else, or determine that it was something else then I agree - no caution needed. I have found prior to the event above that a reminder to the person (or if you are not sure who did it but but you did hear it a reminder in general) will stop further occurrences without a card but I do not stop the game.

 

I agree there is no basis for stopping the game other than to give a caution. But it is abundantly clear that referees do not stop play and caution every time something on that list occurs. Nor are they really expected to. That's what I meant about "must." There is a whole lot of judgment that is still involved.

 

I've only cautioned a coach.

REC league U11, yelling "pass it, pass it!"

To get an opposing player to pass to one who is offside.

I let play continue for a moment until attacking player lost the ball, then peepity peep peep!

YC "knock that nonsense off."

 

This is something that, once I can identify the player, handle with a verbal warning first. If the action continues, then next comes the yellow card.

Kind of the same way I deal with language when it is a little to loud, but not necessarily directed at anyone. A quick fly by with "Hey, I know you are frustrated. Next time pick a different word, or lower the volume. If not, I will have to deal with it."

 

Me, too. Once. Last year. Attacker yells "Leave it!", defender leaves it and it goes through to the attacker, who is on the wing about 14 yards from goal. I *had* to stop play. I cautioned the attacker.

HS, so I'm supposed to announce the reason for the card. I head over to the attacker's coach.
Coach: "What happened. Why is that a card?"
Me: "Look coach, turn it around. Would you want the other team to be able to do that to you?"
Coach: "Um, no. Good point. Jimmy, go report into the game at left wing."

 

I have. Adult league, GK goes up in the air to catch a very high (almost straight up) header. Offensive player goes running straight up to him, arms waving and screaming "AHHHHHH". Whistle and here's your card.
Me: "You cant do that. Its unsporting behavior."
Player: "I have done it plenty and never been told I couldn't."
Me: "Well, now you know."
Player: "Thats f-ing BS."
Me: "And here's the other color card."

That was in my season a while back where I gave like 56 cards in 26 games. I think I gave a card for just about every form of misconduct and foul in the book besides spitting that season