The things we hear returns

Discussion in 'Referee' started by Law5, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. RefGil

    RefGil Member

    Dec 10, 2010
    MBB game on a field with pointy ball lines in white, soccer lines in black (and men's lacrosse in blue, and women's lacrosse in orange, and...)

    Goal kick is sent straight up, and a teammate of the GK plays it two yards short of the 18. There is an opponent nearby to challenge immediately. I raise my flag to indicate that the ball did not make it out of the PA.

    Player who played the ball: "What!?!"
    Me: "Never made it out of the PA. It's a retake of the GK"
    Player: "But I played it right here!"
    Me: "Yeah, but the PA is that black line two yards up"
    Player: (hangs head, heads up field).
     
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  2. ArgylleRef

    ArgylleRef Member

    Jan 23, 2004
    Lansing, KS
    :laugh::ROFLMAO::thumbsup:
     
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  3. voiceoflg

    voiceoflg Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    #2653 voiceoflg, May 20, 2017
    Last edited: May 20, 2017
    Game one of four today. U10G. I am center with a 15 year old and a 13 year old ARs. LOTS of things I heard.

    I asked the ARs if they were grade 8 or 9 referees. The 15 year old said grade 8. The 13 year old said grade 7. I said "really?' rather skeptically. The older AR said "He's in the 7th grade."

    Parents were great except one doesn't know a "handball" from a hand basket. Early in the second half, Blue player starts dribbling to her own goal forgetting which way she is supposed to go. She passes ahead to a defender and Mr. "Hand Basket" yells "That's offsides!"

    Later, Blue keeper takes two steps outside the PA before punting. AR2 flags it, I blow the whistle, and Mr. "Hand Basket" yells "That's an indirect kick." I say "handling is handling, and all handling is direct." He yells "Not for keepers." Turns out on an adjacent U10 field, a referee a third my age awarded an IFK for the same offense...twice.

    Late in the game, one of the girls said she was going to the Atlanta United game tonight. I said I was jealous and told her to have fun. She was absolutely beaming.
     
  4. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The announcer at our HS game last night announced "shot on goal by Smith was just wide." :eek:
     
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  5. mvgary

    mvgary Member

    Jan 12, 2006
    I'm sitting on parent side of girls U10 game this afternoon and attacker is called for offside. Parent "The ball was in the air, how can they be offsides?"
     
  6. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sunday in a u-12 boys AYSO game, blue was playing orange. The ball was high in the air, and an orange player raised his leg high to get the ball exposing the bottom of his cleats near the face of a blue player. I blow the whistle and award an IFK for dangerous play. The orange coach asks loudly, "Why can't they do that? They can do it in the pros." I respond, "It was dangerous." In my head, I'm thinking, "In the pros they also get paid, have a bigger field, and only have three subs per game."
     
  7. Spencedawgmillionaire

    Mar 2, 2017
    Belleville, ILLLLLLLLINOIZE
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    My final game of ten over the weekend, 4th of the day, had nothing but positive experiences save for one on Saturday. U10 match, nice, friendly game, one team playing short a man and is winning by several goals. 4 minutes left, ball goes out to winning team (red), Dad tells white player to throw it in as it's right in front of the spectator's side. White picks up ball after I called "red", I blow my whistle and re-indicate "red ball". dad proceeds to be upset. This is the first thing I've heard all day from the parents. I walk over and say "I have the whistle, I make the calls, went off white's foot, red ball." Dad continues to disagree, nothing major, just huffing a bit, so I say "Look, we're not doing this type of thing today, so you get to decide; you can watch the match quietly, or you can get sent to your car over an OOB call."
    He opens his mouth to say something else and a woman in their group yells "Jesus, Mike, just shut up, already!"
    He folds his arms in a huff and shuts up.
    best line from a parent all weekend.
     
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  8. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    One of the things I have noticed with the new "no heading U11 and below" rules is the preponderance PIADM calls I have been making in these U-little matches. These kids are trying to play balls they would normally head (or even chest down) by playing them with feet that they are getting at face level or higher with other players right there. Boots are way up and other kids are ducking and covering.
     
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  9. robssecondjob

    robssecondjob Member

    New England Revolution
    United States
    May 16, 2017
    Very low skill level U10 boys match. One of those games where every throw was whistled for being bad. The coaches would send on players like hockey lines changes, only to be sent back by the mean center. Every legal substitution was scene because they never got the right number of players on the pitch (you can even use you fingers to count to 7). "What do you mean the keeper has to wear a pinnie, they are going to play on our team"

    Scrum down on the goal line and the ball pinballs back and forth between players. Offside is called. Parents go ballistic.

    Parent yells "That can't be called here, those are European rules. This is American soccer".
     
  10. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    AR1 Urban , adult ethnic league. Good talent on the field. Carnival atmosphere off the field. Boom boxes, a wall of sound with music so loud that I cannot hear the CR too well , whiffs of ganga from the crowd, a few drunks on the sideline , babies wandering on to the field, people riding bikes across the field, folks partying and enjoying a warm sunny day.

    Late stages of a well contested match. Minor confrontation and more of a "referee rhombus" forms rather than a "triangle of control". I talk to #4 who is animated and he vents off some of his steam. Game ends, # 4 comes over to thank the referee's. I talk to him a little more. Second match begins and I am AR2 with my back to the crowd. Halfway thru the first half I am tapped on the shoulder by #4,

    " Ref, come have a shot with us."

    " Sorry, no I am working here..."

    We both laugh.

    Second half, some one says over my shoulder, close enough for me to smell the peppermint schnapps,

    " Come on ref, have a shot with us..."
     
  11. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The place where I officiate indoor soccer adopted the no intentional heading rule almost as soon as it was announced. The first few weeks that it was in effect, I also noticed that I was calling a lot more dangerous plays for high kicks. I guess that is one of the unintended consequences of the rule change. However, more players have adapted to the rule and are now taking an extra step back on high kicks and chesting the ball.
     
  12. Schlager

    Schlager Member

    Dec 5, 2016
    I wish my indoor facility adopted it... I even spoke to the head ref and the director of the facility about it this past winter. All of the kids (and especially the parents) were used to the rule after playing outdoor this past fall, so every time the ball hit a head half the kids stopped (and all the parents yelled). But they director insisted that they weren't USSF affiliated, so they didn't have to do it.
     
  13. Spencedawgmillionaire

    Mar 2, 2017
    Belleville, ILLLLLLLLINOIZE
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Lots and lots of PIADM in our indoor facility. I told my kids to just head it and give up the free kick as long as it's near midfield. I'd rather they get in the practice than take one to the face. My kids are U14 though, so are allowed to head the ball.

    Reffing the U-littles is tough, because of this, though. A LOT of kids about to high kick and hold off, I'm waiting for accidents to happen, but so far, everyone has adjusted.

    Anytime a kid take a ball to the head and it's unintentional and it's with any kind of force and the kid hesitates, I stop play to check the kiddo. MOST coaches appreciate it, but others scream and yell about the header being unintentional.
     
  14. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    This weekend I heard something that I have never heard before. A forward for black was consistently offside. It didn't help that white had a high line. After calling this player offside on 3 occasions. His coach yells at him and kept saying "You are lining up offside. Stay onside". The black player yell's "I can't be offside if the goal-keeper is outside of his box!" He then goes onto say "This linesman doesn't know that rule?! Everyone knows it." The white coach looks at me in his British accent and goes "That kid is bonkers right? The rules don't say anything about goal-keeper and offside?" I reassure him that he is correct and he goes back to his seat.

    The things we hear...
     
  15. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    That's a good one. Reminds me of the HS varsity girl who, when her teammate yelled at her that she was offside (ball nowhere in the vicinity, mind you), pointed at me and yelled back "But he's not calling it!"
     
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  16. threeputzzz

    threeputzzz Member+

    May 27, 2009
    Minnesota
    Last week U13 girl's game. Obvious handling by a defender in the PA, but ball still moving toward goal. GK simply stops in her tracks and the ball rolls slowly in. I signal advantage first just in case anyone is paying attention, then indicate goal. On the way back up field one of the players complains to a spectator "It was a handball but he didn't call it".
     
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  17. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    The player who complained was from which team? It's much funnier if it was the attacking team.
     
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  18. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    That is a new one.
     
  19. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Could be a kernel of truth arising from wait and see . . .
     
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  20. threeputzzz

    threeputzzz Member+

    May 27, 2009
    Minnesota
    I *think* it was a player on the attacking team, but I'm not sure. I decided it was not the time to try to explain anything.
     
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  21. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Several years ago, I was officiating a high school girls varsity game. I heard the coach tell his players, "Remember, you can't be called offsides if you are in your own half." A few minutes later, I saw one of his players who was in her defensive half of the field kick the ball all the way up to her teammate near the other penalty and behind all the other team except for the goalkeeper. Of course, I blew my whistle and called her offside. The coach started yelling,"She can't be offside. The pass came from her own half of the field! You can't be offsid on your own half!" I responded, "You are right. The pass came from the defensive half of the field so the player that kicked the ball was not offside. But the player that received the ball can be called for offside in the offensive half of the field."
     
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  22. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Wonder what it would do to his head to see one of the new-rule defensive-half offside restarts. (Has anybody actually done one of those yet?)
     
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  23. seattlebeach

    seattlebeach Member

    AFC Richmond
    May 11, 2015
    Not Seattle, Not Beach
    Sooo close! I had one right in hand a few weekends ago, was getting ready to raise the flag and everything, but the CR called a foul right before I could. Darn CR's, making their own decisions.
     
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  24. Bubba Atlanta

    Bubba Atlanta Member+

    Mar 2, 2012
    Yep, Atlanta
    Club:
    Atlanta United FC
    Ha. Had you figured out how you were going to signal the position of the restart?
     
  25. tomek75

    tomek75 Member+

    Aug 13, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I already made several of these calls, some as AR others as CR. It's funny how all players so far placed the ball on the halfway line not at the spot of the infraction.
     

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