The search for top class English/British managers.

Discussion in 'England' started by YankBastard, Dec 17, 2014.

  1. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Hughton is Irish :D

    He certainly has had a decent career. Knows how to get teams promoted.

    It's frustrating that more of the top clubs don't back English coaches. But right I would say there isn't exactly a large batch of top coaches waiting to take over at Arsenal so possibly in the future we could see an improvement in this regard.
     
  2. kent paul

    kent paul Member

    Jan 2, 2004
    england
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    To produce great managers we have to start producing great coaches at all levels, and once we do that then the rest will take care of its self IMO.
     
  3. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
  4. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    'Arry is back! Birmingham would still deserve relegation after how they treated Rowett.
     
  5. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    Will Crystal Palace get an English/British manager (like Garry Monk for example) or they also appoint someone from abroad?
     
  6. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    It's looking like...

    Palace - Monk or Jokanovic
    Sunderland - McInnes or Pardew
    Boro - Pearson or Monk

    Not sure about Hull. Leeds may get Karanka.
     
  7. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    True, don't think Pardew has any chance at Sunderland as a former Geordie though.
     
  8. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Yeah, no matter how much he wants it, it will be difficult for Pardew to be a success there.

    Looks like Woy Hodgson has a chance of getting the Palace gig.
     
  9. wellno

    wellno Member

    Jul 31, 2016


    Success doesn't happen without opportunity. There are four managers aged under 40 in the top two flights of English football.
     
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  10. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
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  11. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    Maybe I am the only one who cares, but this game between Swansea and Leeds was not just a good advertisement for the Championship, but for Graham Potter as well. Two teams playing from the back, positive football, high pressing and always looking for the pass - a lot of Premier League teams play in worse style than them. I could see Potter getting a top job in 3 or 4 years time.
     
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  12. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I’ve been impressed by Lampard and Gerrard this season.
     
  13. AJ123

    AJ123 Member

    Man Utd
    England
    Feb 17, 2018
    Thought we'd gone back in time to 2005 for a minute there!
     
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  14. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    :DI hear ya. But how can we fit them both in the same team?

    In all seriousness though, they're showing positive signs.
     
  15. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    There is a lot of English coaches with a good footballing philosophy but they probably need a bit more than that.

    With only 4 English coaches in the Prem of which 2 are ancient we only seem to have Howe & Dyche there.

    The championship this year is perhaps the most interesting. Has a mix of those tried and tested, newbies given first shot & some that have impressed with philiosophy in the lower leagues & worked hard to get where they are now.

    3rd Chris Wilder
    4th Tony Pulis
    5th Frank Lampard
    7th Darren Moore
    8th Tony Mowbray
    9th Graham Potter
    10th Gary Monk
    11th Steve McLaren
    12th Lee Johnson
    14th Dean Smith
    15th Gary Rowett
    16th Paul Cook

    * Going to stop there as all the nice one's are already there.
     
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  16. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I quite like Potter, Lampard and Moore.

    I've also heard good things about Garry Monk. I know Wilder has 'earnt his stripes' in the lower leagues.

    Not familiar enough with the strengths and weaknesses of them all though.

    If there's anybody more familiar with their managerial style please comment.
     
  17. hussar

    hussar Member

    Jun 24, 2015
    Lampard, Potter and Dean Smith seem to be the most forward thinking managers, whose teams play good attacking football. Monk and especially Gary Rowett are the more pragmatic ones with usually defensive tactics. Wilder's Blades are between the two, not the most progressive but quite enjoyabble, high energy football.
     
  18. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Wilder, Cook, Smith have built up in lower leagues with Northampton, Chesterfield & Walsall and they have carried on their footballing philosophy from there to the Championship. The first 2 promoted Sheff U & Wigan from L1 whilst Smith got his chance at Brentford.

    Definitely create teams greater than the sum of their parts.

    I would say Wilder & Cooks teams are more all action on and off the ball playing the game in an exciting manner they definitely seem to appreciate style of football whenever I've read articles when they speak about the game and opponents.

    Cook currently working with Reece James, Antonee Robinson, Callum Connolly, Nick Powell etc

    I would definitely say Wilder has built a strong defensive unit at Sheff U and likes to play 3 at the back. Brought through Brooks maybe a tad slowly off the bench and he seems to be doing the same with Woodburn but you can't say that is a negative.

    For Dean Smith he made a 40m + profit from sales and still had Brentford competing for play-offs and playing champagne football. For me the weakness was the weak under-belly defensively. His team was probably younger than the other 2 and individually had more players who could go to the top but they were developing under him but you always felt they lacked a bit of experience and ready-made players in between.
     
  19. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I'll certainly keep my eye on Villa then! He seemed to get the best out of Grealish in the last two games and who better to have as defensive input that John Terry.
     
  20. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Welsh innit.
     
  21. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Good test for you on this Monday ;)
     
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  22. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Not that it really matters anymore for English club managers to potentially become England managers but Dean Smith has changed the fortunes of Villa around so quickly that you got to be impressed.

    Southgate's new deal takes him to 2022 so I wonder what sort of plans are put in place at this moment or already have been put in place. Got to think getting an English manager from club management isn't a certainty anymore.
     
  23. Rabbi Keane

    Rabbi Keane Member

    Aug 13, 2003
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Southgate so young that he just might become England's longest serving manager.
     
  24. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    He'd have to be there until 2032 to do that. Doesn't seem highly likely.
     

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