The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

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  1. ShaftBrewer

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    Jul 18, 2017
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    https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bunde...g-florian-kohfeldt-at-werder-bremen-2918-1515

     
  2. jond

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    Sep 28, 2010
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    That quote does suggest there might be some starts in his near future.
     
  3. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    “He is not going to start every week”. Pretty strong implication that he is going to start some weeks. Of course it could be something lost in translation, assuming that was in German.
     
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  4. mace

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    Jun 5, 2004
    USA
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Nah, in the Kicker German article it straight up says in the intro paragraph "Sargent continues his rise and should expect a start or two in the back half of the season. However, his trainer continues, as always, to keep the expectations realistic." (interpretation, not literaral translation)

    "Joshua Sargent setzt seinen Aufwärtstrend fort und dürfte im Verlauf der Rückrunde auch noch zum einen oder anderen Startelf-Einsatz für Werder Bremen kommen. Allerdings rückt sein Trainer auch gewohnt realistisch die Maßstäbe zurecht."
     
  5. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Paul Stalteri, who coached the Canadian U-17 when they faced the USA U-17 with Sargent, has been around Werder lately (coaching the "traditional" Bremen team, that took part of the indoor tournament for "tradtional" -that is, former- BuLi players in, funnily enough, Oldenburg; he may have a further role with Bremen this coming season) and Deich Stube interviewed him. He gave some candid opinions about our guy:



    DS: Now you got Josh Sargent, from the USA. How well do you know him?
    PS: Well, I do not know him personally, but I've known him as a player for a while, because he was in the U-17 USA NT, and we played against him during that time.

    DS: Were you a coach or an assistant coach? What was your role there?
    PS: Coach.

    DS: The Canadian U-17?
    PS: The Canadian, we saw him often there, also in the qualifying tournament we played in Panama. At that time he was, as I said, one of the most dangerous players with the USA. They had a good team and he was one of the best. A very dangerous player, a true central number nine, and at the time we noted he was very good.

    DS: Can he do it at Werder? Establish himself permanently?
    PS: It's not easy to say. I mean, he was one of the best at the U-17 team. When he plays in Germany now you have to remember he's only 18. He can have a good future, but he won't be scoring two goals in two games always. He will not be scoring in every game, everybody must realize that.

    It comes to a point in league play when the other players, the other teams know him better. It comes that difficult point for him now. It won't be as easy as it was at first. In the beginning it tends to be easier than it is later, once the player is well-known.

    But still he has one... what I know of him as an opposing coach and have seen myself... he's a good player with a clear mind. I believe he will do it. And hopefully he's following the right path.


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    "Clear mind" as in "guter kopf" (good head) has to do with focus. What he's saying is that he's one of those guys who completely focuses in-game. I think we all noticed how good his attacking off-the-ball movement was for a newbie. That's a sign of top notch focus.

    It's what Stalteri is saying.
     
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  6. wrench

    wrench Member+

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    Sounds like the weather man when he is being coy and saying it's partly cloudy with a chance of rain. It's also partly sunny with a chance of beer at the beach, just not as dramatic in its presentation. I'm sure he is killing it in training and they don't want to blow the horn too loud. Would you if you had a gem?
     
  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    What kinda wages is ole Josh on?
     
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  8. Excellency

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  9. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
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    Near-literally it translates to "is expected to make one or more starts" and can be translated as "should expect a start or two", "should get some starts" or similar. "Won't start every game " is a bit of a stretch, but is still within reason.

    Bottom line is he's going to get PT, probably including starts, but IMO the meat is at the end of the sentence. "Allerdings rückt sein Trainer auch gewohnt realistisch die Maßstäbe zurecht" translates as "but his coach is also adjusting the standards as usual" (Google translate is improving! :thumbsup:).

    Bottom line, he's going to get more PT and some starts before season's end and that PT will not include (many) garbage minutes
     
  10. gruenweiss87

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    Sep 9, 2018
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    Jo Eggestein picked up an injury and won’t be fit for tomorrow’s game at Hannover. With Osako still playing at the Asian Cup for Japan, Sargent is likely to see at least some playing time. Judging by the photos Harnik was on the first team during the training match but he, Rashica, Pizarro, and Sargent are the candidates for the 2 starting spots alongside Kruse.
    Update: When asked today how Harnik has been performing in training recently, Kohfeldt just replied “extremely well”.
     
  11. mattjo

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    Feb 3, 2001
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  14. hype25

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    Jul 17, 2016
    He's only been on for 5 mins so far but his movement has been great
     
  15. bballshawn

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    Wouldve had 2 goal scoring chances with better passes
     
  16. ShaftBrewer

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  18. Higher Learning

    Jul 1, 2009
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    Im surprised they didnt swap jerseys
     
  19. brjohnson

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    May 30, 2015
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    your work is incredibly appreciated.
     
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  20. PalmettoSpur

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    Oct 21, 2015
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    Sargent plays like a much older player. A lot of young attackers get around the 18, and they start trying to force things. If the play isn't there, Sargent holds the ball up, or finds a simple pass to an open teammate, or dribbles toward the center of the field and switches the point of attack. On top of that, he makes incredibly dangerous runs, and genuinely had 3 good scoring chances in 10 minutes (if his teammates could've crossed it accurately).

    I'm excited, and I like the way they're using him. Hopefully, they'll give him another 15-20 in their next match.
     
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  21. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    This should be one of the central tenets of Big Soccer boosterism. We've seen it hold true with a certain other Yank in Germany.
     
  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Thank you, but after watching the loop a few times I'm feeling a little bruised and battered myself.
     
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  23. Tmagic77

    Tmagic77 Member+

    Feb 10, 2003
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    Other than his clearance that resulted in a shot, looks like his decision making and movement was pretty good.
     
  24. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Thanks!

    I always come away surprised at how skillful he is. Don't expect that from some so tall and lanky.

    He's quite good
     
  25. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    Nice to see him with some good old fashioned hold up play. He was fouled twice, won some headers, and helped secure the narrow win. Mature and valuable performance by an 18 year old.
     

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