The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
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    I really thought this match was made for a Foden start. Alas, Pep thinks otherwise. A bit disappointing that he’s lost a chance to get even a hint of momentum.
     
  2. United689908

    United689908 Member

    Jul 11, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Foden is City through & through they have him by the balls. Similar to Rice & West Ham (although Rice's issue is contractual rather than with playing time).
     
  3. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
  4. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    A good cup day for youngsters so far: Longstaff and Callum Roberts both scored for Newcastle, Armstrong for Blackburn. Also Tyrese Campbell with a brace.
     
  5. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Found this a really good read and very interesting:

     
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  6. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    This part is fantastic and so true:

    “It’s amazing,” the scout said. “Fulham spent how many millions in the summer for two midfielders, and we wouldn’t pay for either of them. But O’Riley can’t get in the team and we’d pay for him.”
     
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  7. David Hurford

    David Hurford Member

    West Ham
    England
    Jul 15, 2017
    Just read it too! Superb article
     
  8. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Not one single English qualified player starts the game between Arsenal and Chelsea but I’m sure the powers at be will tell us that it benefits the National team! Has this happened before or is this a first?
     
  9. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Amn will be getting a lot of game time at rb with bellerin out potentially doing his knee
     
  10. ChristianSur

    ChristianSur Member+

    May 5, 2015
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    I think this was the first time it happened:

    Portsmouth v Arsenal, 30 Dec 2009
     
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  11. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    I hope Foden gets a start against against Burnley or Newcastle. I’m not saying he should be starting every game but players relish a bit of momentum.
     
  12. dbs235

    dbs235 Member

    Mar 30, 2013
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I'd be very surprised, sadly.
     
  13. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Quite a few interesting selections in the cup today:

    Harper (incidentally starting his 4th match in a row), Field, Leko, Edwards, Adarabioyo all started and Tulloch came off the bench for a very creditable draw away to Brighton for West Brom.

    Woodman started for Newcastle, Longstaff again started. On the opposite side, Ben Wilmot played the 90 minutes for Watford.

    Ryan Giles debuted for Wolves, Gibbs-White started as well, although maybe not too successful a game as they were losing to Shrewsbury when subbed off.

    Dwight McNeil with another start for Burnley - disappointingly Foden only on for the last 15, hard to see him starting another game this season unless they draw lower league opposition in the cup.

    In championship matters, Tyrese Campbell has started the last two games for Stoke under Jones, although a disappointing 2-0 loss to Preston for them today.
     
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  14. hussar

    hussar Member+

    Jun 24, 2015
    Clarke also started for Leeds, but he had a bad game, subbed off in the interval. Abraham with a brace, and Dozzell still missing from the squad.
     
  15. itfcjoe

    itfcjoe Member+

    Oct 8, 2014
    Club:
    Ipswich Town FC
    Chalobah and Downes both started for ITFC though
     
  16. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    A bit sad that Man City are crying out for a bit of invention and fresh ideas but Pep still won't bring Foden on. Take a risk for crying out loud - it hardly builds character if you only come on once your team has a three goal lead.
     
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  17. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Sarri said Ampadu didn't play well at all after Saturday's game and the whole CHO thing. Its a joke.

     
  18. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    He might respect the academy more by actually bothering to turn up to one of their matches.
     
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  19. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    Hudson-Odoi not even on the bench tonight.
     
  20. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    So, they refuse to let him go and he’s a big part of their future and should respect the academy etc, etc, etc but he’s not even on the bench. Weird, unless there is more going on behind the scenes than we’re lead to believe?
     
  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    If this is true then wow! He would rather play another 2 years of U23 football :cautious:

     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Was just browsing on another thread and the conversation was about Youth development and party about England also. Just added what the guy said below and was just curious about our guys views from this forum as i’m just curious and not seen any or very little of the below age groups. He actually said in another reply that we’re bad behond these age groups. I would have thought it’s pretty hard to really judge the quality of those age groups just yet. Anyone have any views on the younger age groups?

    ‘I heard 2004 n 2005 in England aren’t as good . So it’s always a cycle.’
     
  23. United689908

    United689908 Member

    Jul 11, 2015
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Ultimately the success of an age group is rested on how about 5 or so players develop, it's much better to look at age groups in batches of 3/4 than 1/2.
     
  24. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    It would be extremely difficult to judge the 2004 and 2005 groups at this stage....they don't start getting consistent squads together till about under 16 stage. Hard to judge how good individuals are when the net is cast so far and wide.

    On the face of it, Chelsea are having a few leaner years by the looks of things in terms of talent production right now and they've contributed so much to previous sides, but then the likes of Arsenal and Man U have improved greatly as well in the past couple of years.
     
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  25. JRSG

    JRSG Member+

    Mar 25, 2015
    Club:
    Torquay United
    got a link?
     

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