The origins of lacrosse

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by superdave, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    please discuss here
     
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  2. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    Great sport started by the white man in the mid 1900s,

    Native American's deserve no credit they played stickball with the same basic setup but that doesn't count.. The white euros never would take anything from anyone else and swear it was a new thing when its really just a new set of rules on an old sport.

    I know many may think that a french jesuit saw a bunch of hurons playing and said they were playing 'crosse'...and that somehow led to the sport being named 'lacrosse' but that isn't true. The truth is the whites just sat around and thought...lets start this sport and we will call it lacrosse and came up with the rules that just kind of mirrored what the natives were doing literally down the river...by accident.
     
  3. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was the Algonquians (sp?) that played stickball. Other tribes copied it, like the Iriquois who still field an international team to compete with Canada and the US and others. White man copied that but used the same wooden crosses in the beginning that the natives used.

    I'd give the natives more credit than the Americans for starting it. The white man gave us women's lacrosse. A weak derivative of the men's game. I guess you could choose to wear a skirt but not requiring a helmet and not allowing physical contact means it shouldn't probably be called lacrosse at all. Maybe church dance is a better name for it.
     
  4. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    just an fyi this whole thread is just to get this off the 'japan passing us' thread because we got into a big discussion about where lacrosse started. A poster in the thread insists white euros started lacrosse not the native americans...which of course is crazy and just not factually accurate.
     
  5. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are cave drawings of people running around hitting each other over the head with sticks while a ball lies on the ground.
     
  6. skim172

    skim172 Member+

    Feb 20, 2013
    But is Japan ahead of us in lacrosse? ;)
     
  7. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    I thought it was invented in the late 1990's by a bunch of northeastern broh's who grow their hair long wear docksiders, linen shorts and Vinyard Vines shirts and in general are obnoxious assholes.
     
  8. Expansion Franchise

    Chattanooga FC
    United States
    Apr 7, 2018
    This thread was started because of your insistence that that was being said, despite not being remotely what was said. Enjoy your playpen.
     
  9. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, thanks. Didn't catch that.
     
  10. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Let's leave hurling out of this
     
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  11. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Not even close, although they're ahead of most of the rest of the world.

    Lacrosse's World Cup equivalent has been held 12 times and either the US or Canada has won every time, with the other finishing second 8 of 12 times (Australia has been runners up 3 times and England once). Bronze has been won by either Canada or Australia 11 times and the Iroquois team once. Australia/England/Iroquois have also racked up the vast majority of the rest of the top 5 finishes but Japan is the only team to have cracked the Anglosphere's stranglehold on the top 5, finishing 5th in 2002 and 4th in 2010. (Including the Iroquois as an Anglosphere team, as their players are American and Canadian.)

    Interestingly the next tournament kicks off in just a few days in Israel, first time it will be held outside the US/Canada/UK/Australia...of course most of the home team's players are Americans or Canadians (helps that there is significant overlap between US areas with a high Jewish population and where lacrosse is popular)
     
  12. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In Oklahoma in the 1930's this sport y'all speak of was the Sunday pass time of many of our native American NDN's and any other local men n boys of color or not of color. If they had the courage to enter.
    The set up being two longhorn skulls on top of crates about 70 yards apart. Scoring consisted of shooting a hard ball between these uprights of the skull and horns. After about 3 hours the "game" evolved into a giant brawl. Last man standing event. Detailed out by Oklahoma dudes that lived this life. As reported to me by an Oklahoma native that dared play.
     
  13. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't catch it, cause it wasn't there.
     

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