The Official Victor Bernárdez thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Dec 28, 2011.

  1. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Mumita!
     
  2. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. evade6317

    evade6317 Member+

    Jun 27, 2007
    Savannah, GA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    2015 totals

    2508 mins
    1318 touches
    688 completions
    909 attempts
    76% passing rate
    10 turnovers
    2 dispossessions
    29 box entries
    0 goals
    0 assist
    0 secondary assist
    0 SOG assists
    11 shots
    0 SOG
    58 tackles
    159 duels won
    67 interceptions
    147 recoveries
    166 clearances
    36 fouls committed
    16 fouls suffered
     
  4. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  5. Robdog

    Robdog Member+

    Oct 20, 2002
    Rancho Cordova, Cali
    so what is Bernárdez's status? I saw that nasty challenge Big Muma took from slippy g. How serious was his injury? The challenge looked bad & slippy g should have been sent off. If you need another look at the terrible challenge, try this link
     
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  6. TigersFIMA

    TigersFIMA Member

    Aug 27, 2005
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ran into Big Vic at the grocery yesterday (not literally, thankfully, as he certainly is a big, solid-looking dude). Didn't get to chat long but he was really friendly, said he'll be back next year.
     
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  7. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Muma is a great example of a number of things.

    First, he's a guy we noticed in international play.
    Second, he's from Central America (Honduras in this case), and thus a guy we can squeeze into the salary cap.
    Third, he was one of the best defenders in the league when we signed him.
    Fourth, he is no longer one of the best defenders in the league.

    He's still very good mind you, but his salary and age have out paced what he brings to the pitch. It's time to let him go, or move him into a coaching role. (We might have a boatload of openings in the next six weeks or so.) He did just put in a great season for us, but the odds are long against that he will do so next season.

    We should be constantly on the lookout to replace our guys who are over 30. We should always have guys coming up through the academy and our U-23's and USL sides. We should never count on guys who are 34 years old to start. (Yes, Wondo is an outlier in that regard.) But injuries become more likely and recovery times longer as players age, and over 30 is old for this league.

    Better coaching might extend Muma's shelf life a little, but I wouldn't count on it. And remember, we depend on our starters to start and play well every game. There is some risk involved with every player (see Ike Opara), so minimizing that level of risk is in the best interest of the club. We need to have decent backups for everyone, we need to have youngsters in the pipeline at every position, and we need to be willing to move aging players before they can no longer play.

    We kept Goodson too long. We kept Ramiro too long. There are more guys on that list, but those two should stand out.

    The point is that we need to get better, every season. We should never assume that any player is going to start for us for five years in a row. Some will, but most won't. So we should be looking to upgrade at all times.

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
  8. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    He should have been given the Captain's arm band this past year. No one cared more or played more consistently at a high level. Wondo wasn't the team leader in 2016, it was Muma.


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  9. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Along with Bingham, they were the Quakes two best players last year. Love to get a young centerback and have them develop under Muma for the next couple of years. With him in better shape, I expect to get a least one and maybe two years from him.
     
  10. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hope I'm not hexing him here, but Muma took some incredibly bad hits this season and still performed as one of the best on the field all season. Maybe his body is good for 2 more productive years. Some of you guys keep trying to put him out to pasture too early.
     
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  11. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Muma is incredibly fit.. I won't be surprised if he has more than 2 seasons left in him. He takes very very very good care of himself as you can tell from his statuesque physique.
     
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  12. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    I don't know that I would say that his physique is "statuesque". He feels out the mid-section if his jersey pretty good and that ain't all "stomach muscle". But he has been pretty durable. I would like to see him lose a little weight to help counterbalance the inevitable slowing down with age. And Wondo too for that matter.
     
  13. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Muma, is that you?
     
  15. Albany58

    Albany58 Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Concord, CA USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "He feels out the mid-section if his jersey pretty good...."
    How does one go about feeling out the midsection?
     
  16. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

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  17. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Honduras should recall him as their defense is horrid!
     
  19. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    ColinMcCarthy repped this.
  20. elhula

    elhula Member

    Apr 18, 2007
    san jose
    Wanted to give Victor some props, it seems he gets criticized quite a bit on this board game after game and some of it is deserved. I don't think he gets enough credit for being the rock of our defense the last 5 years, while the rest of the defense has continuously changed around him. Besides the occasional error big Vic is usually the one breaking up attacks and is still a fairly dominant physical presence. I have been watching the Quakes since 78 and in my opinion he is one of the better center backs we have had and for sure one of the longest serving ones. In addition I've met him a few times and he is a really nice guy off the field.
     
    davez, alexiskool1991, Quakes05 and 4 others repped this.
  21. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Quakes05, nihon2000 and ColinMcCarthy repped this.
  22. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    sacrxy and JazzyJ repped this.
  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    His own goal against the Gals right before halftime completely deflated the Quakes. Other than a few spurts of greatness, I think its time they start looking for his replacement.
     
  24. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Own goals are accidents, unless you believe in kooky conspiracy theories.
     

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