The Official Simon Dawkins thread

It was time. Always have good memories from his first stint with the Quakes and he was a classy guy the couple of times that we spoke with him. Wish him luck in the future.

 

So what does “Offseason Buyout of a Guaranteed Contract“ mean? The Quakes buyout his contract at the full price? Which was what, $800k?

I thought it was strange too that Dawkins still occupied an international spot. You’d think with an American wife and an anchor baby that he would have applied for a green card...

 

Geez, what is it with these guys, Soria, Etnire, and now Robert Jonas who seem to think that the most sensible solution to the Dawkins situation was to buy him down with TAM, like TAM is money that couldn't be used in other ways, like to address a team need, and like Dawkins was going to give you any significant value as a player at this point, and as if you couldn't use the TAM and the roster spot and the international slot on a player of value.

Robert calls the buyout decision "a bit curious" when the buy down option is a possibility. No it's not "a bit curious". It is by far the best option if you want to move forward and build the best roster that you can.

 

What genius analysis were you expecting from this group?

 

Well, yeah...It's like they all read each other's blogs and formed their own little alternate reality based on that.

 

They're trapped in 2012.

And we re-signed Dawkins after he fell out of favor with Derby in the Championship. Though a different environment can sometimes revitalized a career, and he would be going back to a place he was familiar with, the Quakes likely did not do their homework before signing him again. He obviously carried the baggage that put him on the bench at Home Park back to San Jose. with him.

 

But it's not even like they expected Simon to contribute anymore, at least some of them. Etnire acknowledged that his value to the team was likely 0 at this point yet still argued that a buy-down made the most sense. Jonas is probably more stuck in 2012. He tends to be a bit reactionary in his viewpoints.

 

BTW Simon was in camp at least for the first few weeks. I wonder if they wanted Stahre to take a look before making a decision, or was it just kind of a courtesy thing to have him train while they negotiated the buyout (if there was anything to negotiate).

 

Simon is the quintessential Doyle signing. It required zero research, legwork, or any other sort of work. Doyle was the ultimate expression of that Texas saying: all hat and no cattle.

 

Hello, if the mother is an american it can't be an anchor baby.

 

Really? I didn’t know anchor baby only applied to moms. Thx for the lesson.

 

I also don't understand this as the article isn't clear. How much did they spend to buy out his contract and won't that money count against the cap?

 

The paid him out of the owner’s pockets the entire remaining value of his contract. It does not count against cap or roster slots because it was done in the preseason.

 

You mean they gave him $800k?

 

Unless they came to an agreement to give him less than what was remaining on his contract.

 

Around there somewhere. I don’t really know their exact paydays so I suppose he’d already been paid some for training...or as was mentioned they negotiated a different number; but I don’t see why Simon would do that. Each team can take one buy out per season if they want and as long as it’s done before the regular season starts, they can have cap space, not just the roster space. We’re compliant now with just the allowed 3 DPs, we’re one slot closer to intl slots compliant, and we have enough TAM (since we don’t spend it buying down a DP) for a TAM signing or a DP in the summer.

 

It was $800k they were going to have to pay anyway for no value (or negative value if it becomes a locker room distraction or they play him at the expense of young developing players or veterans like Hyka). So this way they pay it and get back $500k in cap space, a roster spot, and an intl slot.

 

What a waste of cash. Talk about how “the league is losing money”....

 

The owners are still paying for the mistake that was John Doyle. But with Simon gone, that’s pretty much over. Quakes owners have the money and Fiorinelli wasn’t going change course without some spending.

 

Dawkins actually lucked out. I doubt he will get that much money even in England where they know him. Even if he signs for 2-300 Euro or whatever, he gets to still pocket almost a million for not doing anything. This is what is wrong with this DP rule. Time for the league to rethink , change or do away with the rule.

 

There is nothing wrong with the rule. 'Quakes screwed up, not the league and their rule

 

Read this and laugh. The comments are great

#MLS sources telling me that #MNUFC are among the primary suitors for Simon Dawkins. The attacker parted ways with #Quakes74 last week by mutual consent.

— Jeff Rueter (@jeffrueter) February 19, 2018

 

There is everything wrong with the rule! How many Good players could they have bought and paid for what they gave Simon and Innocent? Or for that matter , what LA gave Beckham or NY paid for Pirlo & Lampard?

 

What 95% of these reactions don't even take into account is that Simon Dawkins is f***ing terrible.