The Official Nick Lima thread

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  1. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    MLS's rookie class: Latecomers make noise

     
  2. Goodsport

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    May 18, 1999
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  3. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
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    Am I the only one deeply disturbed by the fact that the only metrics they used to judge defenders by was minutes played, goals, and assists? I know it's a trend to basically dismiss defensive contributions entirely when rating any and all field players, but that piece was just sad.
     
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  4. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    The answer is "yes".
     
  5. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    Yes, it would be interesting to see how many times they were beaten on a dribble, or how many crosses came in from their side, and most importantly, how many goals/assists came from their side.
    If you ever watch a Seattle Seahawks game they often show how many times an opposing quarterback throws to Richard Sherman's side of the field compared to the other side. They usually avoid him like the plague. Are certain MLS defenders "avoided" more than others??
     
  6. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    So you'd find it interesting, but are you "deeply disturbed"?
     
  7. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
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    No, not "deeply disturbed', or "'extremely concerned". More "mildly curious".
     
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  8. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Same here. We do really have a dearth of defensive stats. People sometimes resort to counting the number of goals the team gives up while the player is playing, which is a very poor way of assessing a defensive player. There are things like interceptions and clearances and tackles, but that is not nearly enough.
     
  9. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
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    My eyeball test, which is certainly flawed, would venture to guess that Lima was maybe even, but probably negative in terms of overall contributions. He got beaten all the time down the wing.

    I would also be pretty confident saying that yes, certain defenders are probably avoided more often than others. You can observe this happen during games. One of the tells is if attacking players swap positions in an effort to mismatch the best attacking player against the weakest defending player. Whether specific game management points to larger trends that pinpoint defenders that are considered more league wide as difficult to beat, I'm not sure. The imbalanced schedule could make that difficult to determine since teams don't all play each other with the same frequency, nor is every team constructed the same way and may not run into problems that another team might.
     
  10. don gagliardi

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    Feb 28, 2004
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    Nick Lima is featured in the latest edition of San Jose's Content Magazine.
     
  11. Earthshaker

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    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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  12. Beerking

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  13. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    Maybe not this one.....but....
    ...may I introduce you to messrs Beitashour and Morrow.
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  14. chris thebassplayer

    Feb 18, 2014
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    #139 chris thebassplayer, Jan 9, 2018
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    Really stoked Lima got the call up. I'm sure Wondo will give him the run down on what to expect.

    The timing of the January camp is difficult... tough for players to be thrown into a hyper competitive grueling nats training environment before starting their club preseason training. Hopefully he was training for the potential call up.

    I hope he shines and most importantly comes back completely healthy.
     
  15. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, my concern is that he's going to go hard to impress and tweak that hammy again.
     
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  16. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    I think this could work out great for both the Nats and Quakes. Hopefully, he comes into training for the Quakes in great shape, and he should have a renewed appreication for the Bay Area after having been through two weeks of training in Carson. ;)
     
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  17. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
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    As long as he comes out of it healthy. :)
     
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  18. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, we don't want him coming back with some kind of nasty Limatoma!
     
  19. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
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    Yeah, can't risk that, hope is training minutes are Limated
     
  20. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    Yeah, we are thin at outside back as it is. Missing Nick would put us in real a deLima.
     
  21. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    Cringe worthy.
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    :thumbsup:
     
  23. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
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    Hopefully, he'll be back in the Nick of time!
     
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  24. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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    Touche' bsman!

    Yeah, I don't want him coming back carrying a nick.
     
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  25. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
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    Mission accomplished.
     

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