The Official Guram Kashia Thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Beckham7, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. SeaJayBee

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    It's on the list, right after Canada.
     
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  2. Goodsport

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  3. JazzyJ

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    He also wrongly credited Doyle with the Cummings signing, as Socarchist wrote. He was a Leitch / Dom signing. I think those two may have also got things started with Urena, Hyka, and Hoesen. Not sure about Flo.
     
  4. don gagliardi

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    Life imitates art. :)

     
  5. davez

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    No more references to "Fake News" is acceptable... Period.
     
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  6. JazzyJ

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    BTW outside of Atlanta United we are now officially the most Georgian team in MLS.
     
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  7. don gagliardi

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    Sue me.
     
  8. Earthshaker

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    Maybe your FO source is feeding you a line of BS. I find it surprising and suspect that our pursuit of Kashia managed to be under the radar for so long.
     
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  9. don gagliardi

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    Always possible, but I don't think so. I have second source that told me months ago, before the season went south, that the Quakes would be bringing in a CB during the summer transfer window.
     
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  10. don gagliardi

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    This reminds me when Seattle brought in Lodeiro during the summer transfer window in 2016. It was generally assumed that the Sounders' horrid start to that point prompted the Lodeiro signing along with the firing of Sigi Schmid. But it later turned out that Schmid is the one who had initiated pursuit of Lodeiro and that he had done so since before the season started.
     
  11. SoccerMan94043

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    So you're saying there a chance we fire Stahre to complete the Seattle analogy?
     
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  12. don gagliardi

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    Are you saying there's a chance the Quakes win MLS Cup this season without scoring a goal in the final? :)
     
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  13. xbhaskarx

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    As someone who follows MLS closely, this is just false. Or "FAKE NEWS" as some uninformed/delusional ***** who believe they're stable geniuses may be known to say...

    The Lodeiro signing did not come in response to a horrid start and certainly not prompted by the firing of Sigi Schmid, and anyone who assumed that was simply not paying attention. Those who follow MLS outside of their own team (so not 98% of the aging boomers on this board) knew this was in the works for many months.

    Lodeiro was regularly and consistently linked to Seattle since April:

    April 20
    Garth's Most Wanted: South American Targets

    May 18
    Is Boca Juniors midfielder the playmaker SFC seek?

    May 20
    Nicolas Lodeiro is a 'player we like', Hanauer says

    May 21
    Lodeiro deal won't be before his Copa Lib run ends

    May 23
    Report: Sounders offer Lodeiro four-year contract

    May 25
    Boca Juniors want more than Sounders' $7M transfer offer

    June 7
    Don't close book on Sounders' pursuit of Lodeiro


    Lodeiro actually signed with Seattle on July 27:

    July 27
    Nicolas Lodeiro officially joins Sounders


    Lodeiro signed on July 27. NO ONE who actually reads the news instead of dismissing everything as fake news could possibly believe that Sigi Schmid had not been involved in the pursuit of Lodeiro, given that Schmid was fired just three days before Lodeiro signed, on July 24, whereas the Sounders were known to have targeted Lodeiro since at least April.
    Who are these people "generally assuming" the opposite despite dozens of news stories, can you name them or provide links, or is that just a straw man?


    On the other hand, when was the first rumor linking Kashia to the Quakes? If there's anything from over a week ago anywhere out there on the internet (whether a new story or just some random person's comment), feel free to link it, just like I provided links for Lodeiro.

    Barring any new sources, here's what I see:

    Kashia linked to Earthquakes: June 9

    Kashia signed by Earthquakes: June 14


    So for Kashia it's June 9 to June 14 (unless you can provide any links from earlier than the 9th), that's 6 DAYS. For Lodeiro it's April 20 to July 27, that's 3 MONTHS AND 7 DAYS.
    On what basis are you comparing the two situations, and what about one "reminds you" of the other?

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. don gagliardi

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    Agreed. Yet, I recall this being discussed on Big Soccer in the aftermath of the signing, and on this board. Do your own research.
     
  15. xbhaskarx

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    Okay so some uninformed old dude on Big Soccer made a false statement that they didn't back up with any evidence, that's nothing new. I see it all the time.

    Any response to this?

     
  16. don gagliardi

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    As I have already mentioned, I was told months ago by a reliable inside source that a CB would be signed in the summer transfer window. I was told that this would be a major signing. The fact that I and Quakes management can keep a secret, whereas evidently the same cannot be said of Seattle, in no way belies the truth of what I'm saying.

    The Kashia signing has been in the works for a long time. You can believe me or you can believe the Mercury News. The choice is yours.
     
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  17. DotMPP

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    You misread the statement you emphasized... Don had written, in short form, exactly the point you tried to make.
     
  18. TyffaneeSue

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    It's a long time since I've had to move posts to the recycle bin. And on this thread, go figure. You guys know better!
     
  19. DotMPP

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    You took this line from Don's post:

    That underlined italicized part is stating the same point you made...
     
  20. MtnGardener

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    Someone respected on the board comes in and says calmly and politely what they heard first person from someone with the Quakes (i.e. news, albeit not attributed) and you come in hot, calling everyone but yourself and some anointed 2% "delusional, uninformed, aging boomers" and you hope the mods are going to come and defend you?
     
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  21. SoccerMan94043

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    Only if we fire Stahre :)
     
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    Guys, if you have this much free time, go watch ESP-POR and enjoy some real soccer.
     
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  23. xbhaskarx

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    So one person says "f*ck you" to the other and calls them "a prick" and the solution is to delete both people's comments?

    Is that how Big Soccer's policies dictate such a situation should be handled by the mods? Can you post the site's rules, or direct me to someone I can ask about this?

    So really I made a mistake by not hurling personal abuse at another member, as the consequence for doing so is exactly the same as for having personal abuse directed at you?
     
  24. TyffaneeSue

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    We mods are volunteers; we have all been doing this for a while. As I said above, it's been a while since the discussion got out of hand (the post-Portland brouhaha comes to mind) but still, you guys should know better than to engage in name-calling and casting aspersions.
     
  25. xbhaskarx

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    #50 xbhaskarx, Jun 15, 2018
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    It was believed that the earth was flat until we sent up satellites and took photos from above and it turned out that the earth was spherical all along. Wait what evidence is there that people believed the earth was flat before that? Well a few dumb***es on some Astronomy forum said the earth was flat, I'm not going to link to it though, do your own research! ​

    I don't think you understand. My point is that the vast majority of people accepted this as fact. It was not in dispute. It's not some revelation, that "later turned out" (to quote directly). One or two people (supposedly, we don't even have any links for that) can believe anything, but the vast majority of MLS fans and Sounders fans know Sigi Schmid was involved because the deal had been very publicly being worked on for months. And there are dozens of news articles supporting that. It certainly didn't happen in the three days between Sigi getting fired and Lodeiro signing. My assertion was that is not a point that is in dispute by reasonably informed non-clueless people. I never said any specific person here believed that, so "Y is stating the same point you made" is irrelevant. But Y is stating that this was some commonly held opinion, and I have seen no evidence that it ever was.

    And again, if anyone can provide anything linking Kashia to the Quakes from over a week ago, please do so. And to make that about "I can keep a secret" is laughable, did anyone say months ago "I can't get into specifics but the team may be in the process of bringing in an unnamed high level defender to shore up the back line but I don't want to reveal more than that" or anything along those lines? Again, feel free to link to it if they did.

    Your reading comprehension may need some work, or you don't really follow the news (not calling you "uninformed" but...). Some of that was vaguely directed to a certain individual (I would have thought the clues were pretty obvious, and yet here we are) who most certainly does not post on BigSoccer, and therefore I can whatever opinion I want about them (otherwise where is the line drawn, can people not say that they think Stahre is a terrible coach, or Jesse "Fraudinelli" or X player sucks?).

    I didn't personally attack anyone on this site directly, I said that anyone who thinks Sigi Schmid wasn't involved in the Lodeiro deal is clueless, and someone assumed I was talking about them, which doesn't even make sense as they never said they believed that, just that other people did. In any case of I were to say "you'd have to be stupid to believe a defender from the Swedish second division is the answer to our problems" you can't take that as a personal attack, "Hey I'm a big Qwiberg fan and you just called me stupid!!" Sorry, that was not an attack directed at anyone here specifically, it was a statement of opinion. On the other hand, directly telling someone else on this forum "f*ck you" and calling them "a prick" I'm guessing is against the site's rules.
     

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