The Official 2020 MLS SuperDraft thread [R]

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Dec 13, 2019.

  1. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So our first-day haul was:
    Tanner Beason - D, Stanfurd - LB or CB.
    Jack Skahan - W, UNC - Can he play outside mid or outside back?
    Jon Bell - D, UMBC, we need more defenders.

    If Beason can give us useful minutes, that will be good. If we get anything out of Skahan or Bell, this season or next, it will have been a successful draft.

    But I don't expect any of these three to be starters out of the gate. Maybe Beason works his way into the starting rotation at left-back after two or three months, because we basically do not have a starting left-back at this point.

    Jack Skahan is a winger, so depending on how we or he views that, is he a left-back? or a left-mid? Either way, he could be useful.

    As for Jon Bell, well, we need more defenders. Hopefully he's a good one. Do we have anyone in Reno we could call up to provide some cover for our defensive line? I'm not sure, and I can't figure much out from the Reno website. Dang.

    Go Quakes!!
    Fisher OUT!!

    - Mark
     
  2. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I heard something on the way to work that Almeyda's intention is to loan Beason out to Reno immediately. Given the gap between MLS and college that has developed, that does not surprise me at all. Draftees are now long term projects. Even Haji, who was much higher rated, struggled for playing time last year. Heck, Hillard Arce is playing for sac republic now
     
  3. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Alright now. :)

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  4. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  5. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
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  6. vjle

    vjle Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I've seen Beason play many times at Stanford. Very solid defender. Started on the left and moved to center over time. He took PKs for them--and I'm not sure he ever missed one. Stanford plays pretty much safety first in the back, so I'm not sure what he has to offer in attack. He was a captain and definitely has a leadership personality.
     
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  7. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He had 20 goals and 11 assists in 81 appearances (all starts). Those are incredible numbers for a defender, and better than many midfielders.
     
  8. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Well, given he took their PKs, I think you can ratchet down the xGs! ;)
     
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  9. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Who has a defender taking PKs? Especially a three-time championship caliber team? Sounds like he must be pretty poised.
     
  10. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    My son's first year of HS, he was a central defender on the JV team and took all their PKs. He led the conference in scoring that year (about half the goals were PKs).
     
  11. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    It’s always nice to get the guy you wanted. I got the impression that the Quakes would have selected Beason if they would have been higher in the draft order.
     
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  12. vjle

    vjle Member

    Sep 17, 2001
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    That's true. When Stanford earned a PK (at least the last year or two), there was no doubt who was going to take it.
     
  13. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    LA Galaxy, Internazionale
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Easy, peasy. NO
     
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  15. scotto

    scotto Member

    Feb 13, 2001
    Bonny Doon, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vanney used to take them for the Galaxy. I don't think I ever saw him miss, and he always crushed them. No nonsense or cuteness, just pure confidence. Similarly, even with all of their other stars, I'd have Milner take them every time for Liverpool.
     
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  16. due time

    due time Member+

    Mar 1, 1999
    Santa Clara
    Why not?

    I'd bet the reason most teams have a forward taking PKs can be chalked up more to ego (of the forward) than to which player has the highest conversion rate.
     
  17. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    As a former defender (and having known many forwards) I will happily endorse that perspective!
     
  18. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We won't know how good those selections are or aren't until much, much later.

    Grading the draft is a crap shoot. At least we drafted guys at positions where we need help and will probably still need help next year. Even if they all suck, it was the right idea.

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
  19. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Somehow we managed not to draft another goalkeeper, so there is that.
     
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  20. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    there’s always the third and fourth round lol
     
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  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Anyone see this guy play?

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  22. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #73 xbhaskarx, Jan 13, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2020
    I was barely paying attention, but didn't Matt Doyle make some comment during the live stream about how Stanford defenders haven't translated to MLS as well as other positions, and that Hilliard Arce was much higher rated by scouts than Beason and is out of MLS already?

    The Quakes' Beason pick starts right around the 1:00:00 mark helpfully:


    They also discuss both how Stanford plays and how the Quakes play, and how the former may have helped protect him and why the latter may be more difficult for him.

    Edit: Just to clarify I'm not criticizing the pick, just pointing out the analysis. I know nothing about the dude but assume it's a decent pick based on the mock drafts... it's not like you can get a sure thing with the #12 pick they're all going to have their issues, and at least this guy is a leader, versatile, and a left footed CB ("a slower Matt Besler" they said)...

    It will be interesting to look back in a few years and compare our three picks with another team that had similar level picks and got an A- to our B- (also because we passed on Jennings and a couple different mock drafts had us selecting Ferriol):

     
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  23. vamanoshasta

    vamanoshasta Member

    Aug 12, 2006
    Exactly. During PK tie breakers in the tournaments I've played in, the guys that are usually on offense try to crush the shot and usually shank. The defenders usually just place the ball and generally make it.
     
  24. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

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