The Official 2019 US Men's Draft Game -- Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by TheFalseNine, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Entirely random thought: there's a RB in the pool named Shaq and a LB named Kobe.
     
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  2. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A LeBron can’t be too far in the future
     
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  3. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's a relief, I guess. I improperly gauged the affinity for him from the fan base because he didn't seem to get glowing reviews due to how he botched chances. But he wasn't ideally used, and that's not the whole game.

    That's introspective. I think many succumb to that same allure like with Zelalem, Green, and maybe now Wright.
     
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  4. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Options:
    1.
    ———-Zardes—Wood———-
    —————Mihailovic————-
    ———Rowe———Delgado—-
    ——————Trapp—————-
    Morrow—————————Chandler
    ———-Alvarado—-Trusty———
    ——————-Robles—————-
    Bench: Orozco, Nerwinski, Larentowicz, Siebatcheu

    2.
    Zardes——-Siebatcheu——-Wood
    ——————Mihailovic—————-
    ————Trapp———Delgado——-
    Morrow——————————Chandler
    ————-Alvarado—Trusty————
    ———————Robles——————

    Bench: Orozco, Nerwinski, Rowe, Larentowicz
     
  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like your side but I’m not gonna lie. When voting comes around I likely wouldn’t give you points for Siebatcheu. As far as I’m concerned he doesn’t want to play for us. If that changes and he still hasn’t gotten a cap that’s different. But as of now, he doesn’t want to be apart of our program.
     
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  6. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Don’t be a hater lol...

    Honestly though, he’s never said he didn’t want to play for us and he’s not in France camp. In fact, his response was that he was open to the USMNT; just when he was invited to camp last, he had just transferred. I can’t blame him for that and the fact that he wouldn’t want to play for a lame duck coach. Do we say Pulisic doesn’t want to play for us for the same reason? By all means, Jordy Siebatcheu should be considered in the bag for the US camp if Gregg rates him at all.
     
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  7. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Got my first pick off before going to a business function last night and my window was basically overnight sleeping hours.

    Perhaps an overnight pause should be considered going forward although I don't care that much this late in the draft.
     
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  8. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With you on the overnight pause it’s not exactly fair. And it wouldn’t stop people from picking if their up. Just stops the clock.
     
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  9. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol def not a hater and I considered taking a gamble on him as well. I don’t blame him either for turning down the invite. He had just made a move and it was more important for him to settle with his new club. I’d have done the same. He’s not in France camp because he isn’t good enough to beat out the others. But make no mistake that’s where he wants to be. He will very likely rep the US because he can’t make frances squad and I’m cool with that as long as he comes in and plays hard and wears the jersey with pride. However, until he’s on record stating come get me US, I want to rep the US and not France he won’t get full points in a lineup from me.

    Pulisic is a different situation tho. He’s already cap tied. He’s played several games for us whereas Jordan hasn’t.
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is an unofficial overnight pause, it's just inconsistently applied because it's up to the next picker as to whether or not they can or want to take advantage.

    I've always been for a couple hrs extra or resuming the competition at 11 AM EST (i.e.), with early morning selections being elective.
     
  11. ChuckMe92

    ChuckMe92 Member+

    Jun 23, 2016
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do think it's possible Siebatcheu will be part of the USMNT in a few years or beyond. It's likely going to be either the US or Cameroon. But I viewed the draft selection process as "if offered a USMNT callup now, for 2019, would he accept" and he would clearly reject it especially still being in contention for France U21s for the European Championship, so he and Alvarez were not on my personal board, despite being technically eligible. That's not preventing someone else from taking him or making an argument in favor of that, just my view. I drafted multiple inferior American forwards who'd accept an MNT callup with him still undrafted. I hope to consider him a few years from now.
     
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  12. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s fair...

    However, my prediction is he waits it out until the summer; finishes the season, would make himself ready for the Gold Cup, however Berhalter passes for other options. In the fall, however he’s brought in if he’s still performing at a high level.

    I think that is extremely realistic.
     
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  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For our team though, he makes an outstanding luxury option... even if we didn’t use him somehow; we could keep the same 433 formation and start Rowe at LW or Wooten at FW; or stick to our original 4132 formation.
     
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  14. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I could see it playing out like that but it doesn’t do you any favors in this draft in the here and now.
     
  15. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like the first option. If you use Rowe as a winger I’d put him on the right if Chandler is playing. Chandler is going to get forward and Rowe will leave the space for him to operate there. He’ll move central or drop off a little naturally to provide the balance. Could be the same for Morrow but I’d naturally want that to come through Chandler. He’s better getting forward and is more known for not getting back. You’ll want to provide cover for that.
     
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  16. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ——————-Jozy——Dwyer—————-
    Castillo—Nagbe—Dax—Bedoya—Lichaj
    ——-Besler—-Hagglund—--Birnbaum——
    ———————Guzan————————-

    Bench:

    Aron Johannsson
    Terrence Boyd
    Chris Pontius
    Juan Pablo Torres
     
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  17. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Every time I see Lalas I remember playing the Alexi Lalas International Soccer video game... ever wonder what happened to that series?
     
  18. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @Lookingforleftbacks you’ll be up at about 2am.

    I’ll be asleep by then by wanted to give you a heads up.
     
  21. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just wanted to chime in and say an overnight pause would be great, even if it was for a couple hours. Working nights combined with being on the left coast means I don’t really get to sleep until 4 or 5 est. With everyone on separate schedules and never knowing if 5 people are going to pick in succession, I kind of feel like picks are happening 24/7. It would be nice to know there are a couple hours per day where the clock was stopped.
     
  22. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I get it... but I’d say that’s not up to me @TheFalseNine would need to bless that one.

    That said, you can send your pick to someone and they’ll pick. Also, at this point in the draft, we’re almost done. Hopefully you won’t have another late night pick.
     
  23. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I meant more for future reference. I’m basically grasping at straws at this point in the draft.
     
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  24. Lookingforleftbacks

    Galaxy
    United States
    Dec 17, 2016
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    @Matthew Hartman

    In case you needed this:

    @zlebmada
    1. Sargent
    2. Ledezma
    3. Aaron Long
    4. Zusi
    5. Durkin
    6. Ream
    7. Llanez
    8. Danny Acosta
    9. Alex Muyl
    10. Jacobi Hayes
    11. Ryan Meara
    12. Bofo
    13. Kobe Hernandez-Foster
    14. Ochoa
    15. Rennicks

    @ChuckMe92
    1. Pulisic
    2. Alex Mendez
    3. Roldan
    4. Duane Holmes
    5. Palmer-Brown
    6. Glad
    7. Green
    8. Lima
    9. Vazquez
    10. Frei
    11. Aaron Herrera
    12. Zyen Jones
    13. Fernando Arce Jr
    14. Mason Toye
    15. Kyle Scott

    @Kevin8833
    1. Weah
    2. Picault
    3. Romain Gall
    4. Nguyen
    5. Opara
    6. Ibarra
    7. Feilhaber
    8. Ben Sweat
    9. Rosenberry
    10. Sean Johnson
    11. Lovitz
    12. Beckerman
    13. Bunbury
    14. Tyler Miller
    15. Siad Haji

    @thedukeofsoccer
    1. Tyler Adams
    2. Andrija Novakovich
    3. Fabian Johnson
    4. Walker Zimmerman
    5. Geoff Cameron
    6. Jordan Morris
    7. Sean Davis
    8. De la Torre
    9. Chris Mueller
    10. Melia
    11. Hollingshead
    12. Sapong
    13. Miles Robinson
    14. Sands
    15. Brandt Bronico

    Lookingforleftbacks
    1. McKennie
    2. Amon
    3. Bello
    4. Soto
    5. Parker
    6. Carleton
    7. Marshall
    8. Hines-Ike
    9. Gooch
    10. Shaq Moore
    11. Bono
    12. Servania
    13. Tommy Thompson
    14. Scally
    15. Ricardo Pepi

    @Matthew Hartman
    1) Brooks
    2) Dest
    3) Arriola
    4) Ebobisse
    5) Baird
    6) Busio
    7) Villafaña
    8) Derrick Jones
    9) Brendan Aaronson
    10) Hamid
    11. Jaylin Lindsay
    12. Donovan Pines
    13. Dantouma Toure
    14. Frankie Amaya
    15. Cade Cowell

    @truefan420 @GiallorossiYank
    1. Jozy Altidore
    2. Nagbe
    3. Dwyer
    4. Besler
    5. Bedoya
    6. Dax McCarty
    7. Lichaj
    8. Birnbaum
    9. Edgar Castillo
    10. Guzan
    11. Hagglund
    12. Johannsson
    13. Pontius
    14. Juan Pablo Torres
    15. Terrence Boyd
    16. Shea Salinas

    @AutoPenalti
    1. Zack Steffen
    2. Keaton Parks
    3. Bradley
    4. Cannon
    5. Morales
    6. Richards
    7. Christian Ramirez
    8. Ariyibi
    9. Finlay
    10. Gloster
    11. Ford
    12. Stanko
    13. Josh Perez
    14. Cody Cropper
    15. Mullins
    16. Joel Sonora

    @Eleven Bravo @IndividualEleven
    1.Bobby Wood
    2. Zardes
    3. Trapp
    4. Delgado
    5. Mihailovic
    6. Trusty
    7. Ventura Alvarado
    8. Rowe
    9. Tim Chandler
    10. Morrow
    11. Luis Robles
    12. Siebatcheu
    13. Orozco
    14. Larentowicz
    15. Jake Nerwinski
    16. Andrew Wooten

    @jond
    1. Horvath
    2. Antonee Robinson
    3. Haji Wright
    4. Saief
    5. Corona
    6. Pomykal
    7. Konrad de la Fuente
    8. Danny Williams
    9. Omar Gonzalez
    10. Polster
    11. Parkhurst
    12. Akale
    13. Vassilev
    14. Fede Oliva
    15. Niko Gioacchini
    16. Aboubacar Keita

    @ShaftBrewer
    1. Yedlin
    2. Canouse
    3. Cameron Carter-Vickers
    4. Sabbi
    5. Kelman
    6. McKenzie
    7. Garza
    8. Hyndman
    9. Jonathan Lewis
    10. Klinsmann
    11. Kljestan
    12. Efrain Alvarez
    13. Nyeman
    14. Michael Edwards
    15. Damian Las
    16. Jacobo Reyes

    @CreightonMCFCjoey
    1. Miazga
    2. Acosta
    3. Taitague
    4. Lletget
    5. Hedges
    6. Lennon
    7. Reyna
    8. Jesse Gonzalez
    9. Kitchen
    10. Gutman
    11. Agudelo
    12. Zelalem
    13. Araujo
    14. Booth
    15. Brady Scott
    16. Jack Maher
     
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  25. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The window for @Matthew Hartman has lapsed, so @Lookingforleftbacks , if you can, make your pick soon so I can slip in before I wrap up for the night. The draft has become increasingly slow moving.
     

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