The Offical Argentina NT WC06 Squad ...

Discussion in 'Argentina' started by vipnerd, May 15, 2006.

  1. bsas

    bsas Member

    May 27, 2004
    Switzerland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    The CQC one was hilarious! The guy tells Messi something like:

    "Ok, you are with Ronaldinho. This guy has everything, he's the best player in the world, he laughs on the fields, gets all the chicks, but then tell me, as a secret, you who are in the changing room with him... He has small one, hasn't he?.."

    You can see Messi is expecting a complete different question...
     
  2. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    CQC was great.:D
     
  3. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    That was part two of last Wednesday's CQC ... this is part one. :D


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  4. in da soup

    in da soup New Member

    Nov 17, 2005
    england
    that is sooooooooo funny :D

    i especially liked it when one of the stewards stop him approaching the team and he keeps saying 'enschuldigung' (which means 'sorry' in german) in his argie accent.

    hilarious
     
  5. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    The future is bright ...

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  6. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Great picture Vipnerd.
     
  7. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Is anyone else watching "El Show del Mundial" on Telefe? The guy from Estilo K (his name is not coming up to my head :) ) was with the Brazilian World Cup squad.. Everytime he would try to ask the players a question, they would ignore and avoid him.. Then, Roberto Carlos came up to him.. He was asked "No le tienen miedo a Argentina, ni un poquito?" ("Aren't you guys scared of Argentina, atleast a little bit?".. Roberto Carlos just put on this "embarrassed" face and didn't reply.. We all know they are scared.. Quite funny. :p
     
  8. ilovefotball

    ilovefotball Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    europe
    :D funny indeed.
     
  9. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Anyone else starting to get "annoyed" with Chilavert's "Si, si" habit? He says it atleast 10 times every 5 minutes.. :p He's been saying it 1,000 times everygame during this World Cup..
     
  10. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I was thinking the same, and it is annoying. Also he calls his partner 'Amigo', as in 'Si, si, amigo...', which is also kind of annoying. But he's better than some of the other bozos they have, because at least he knows something about football.
     
  11. Enganche

    Enganche Red Card

    Apr 30, 2003
    It is ironic because during this Argentina-Holland game I too noticed that for the first time(and his habit of calling his broadcast partner "amigo") but as argentine soccer fan said he and partner Jorge Perez Navarro are still the best team working on Univision and only the English-Irish duo on ESPN (Healey & Smyth) is anywhere comparable to them on the English language alternative here in the US.
     
  12. Viola Star

    Viola Star Member

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    May 9, 2006
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I still can't believe Zanetti and Samuel aren't in this squad.
    It is quite clear from watching the tournament so far that
    Argentina has the greatest crop of footballers in the world
    at the moment...and yet, two of them are sitting at home.

    It is totally unacceptable leaving one of the greatest right
    backs of all time out of the squad and yet naming Lionel
    Scaloni, a West Ham reject. This is akin to Engand
    preferring Konchesky to Cole, or Italy, Pancaro to
    Zambrotta. It is utter lunacy.

    What about the aerial threat posed by the Germans and
    the English? Can Ayala handle it all on his own without
    Samuel to help out? Where is the aerial threat of Argentina
    at corner kicks? Wouldn't it have been a good idea to take
    Samuel for the threat he can pose in these situations at
    least? I worry. I really do.

    This great generation can surely now only be stopped by
    the absence of Zanetti and Samuel, both self-inflicted
    weaknesses. Pekerman needs to return with the cup-
    Argentina have the best players in the world.
     
  13. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    We've already discussed this in great and passionate detail in this and many other threads. Pekerman brought a side based on his system. As much as well love Zanetti, he's not the type of RB this team needs. He attacks way to much for what we are doing as a team. Samuels best days are behind and I really don't think he provides any more than what we could get from Milito for example. This side is playing well. We have a team spirit and it shows. Scaloni was picked as the club house guy so to say and to be honest as loose as this team is playing, he must be doing something right.

    Best thing about is to leave the Zanetti and Samuel gripes for another time. The cup has progressed and I don't feel they've really been missed.
     
  14. shaf-argentina

    shaf-argentina New Member

    Dec 30, 2005
    Auckland, NZ
    For once I thought it was a spelling mistake very similar to how Leon spells it, but then realised its grammatically right. :D

    Well, on a serious note, I think its more than evident why Scaloni was taken. Peks has had the chance to play all his outfield players in the 3 group games, and he played 19 out of the 20 players, leaving the comedian out.

    He must b doing a very good job, cos we are showing more togetherness and spirit than an other team ot there so far.
     
  15. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Shaf,

    I reckon seeing Scaloni in training everyday makes the rest of the squad a) feel really good about themselves and b) fall about laughing. So he's doing a good job as squad clown. :p
     
  16. bsas

    bsas Member

    May 27, 2004
    Switzerland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well, he is staying on the bench because there were better options than him on each match. What if Zanetti would have been there? We would have had threads as to "Why Zanetti is treated so badly?";)

    Give the poor guy some credit. If he was selected, and if Pekerman has shown he has a lot of sense, then he must not be totally rubbish... After all, everyone was criticizing Pato as well...
     
  17. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román
    Just realized something that I hadn't taken into account before. With all the talks that Ayala should had kept the captain armband ... and giving it to Sorin, as he did in the 1st YNT he coached to the YWC title ...

    I found this in an article that bsas posted on this board.

    Could religion have taken a part in the trust on Juanpi since the early days of Pekerman as coach, and extended this time around?


    The full article is here.


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  18. elciclon

    elciclon New Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    BOEDO
    Club:
    CA San Lorenzo de Almagro
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    i read it on the isreal board only problem is that were suppose to face germany in the final, but thats a little impossible for now.
     
  19. bsas

    bsas Member

    May 27, 2004
    Switzerland
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    How "Jewish" are they? Do they practice, or it's just a family link? In the case of Sorin, I was quite surprised, since his name is Juan Pablo; not your typical Jewish name ;)
     
  20. El viejo Matias

    May 21, 2005
    Canada
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    No. John Paul is not very jewish is it??:D :D
     
  21. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Still biblical though so a jew being named Juan Pablo isn't out of the question. Hell my cousins name is Pablo.
     
  22. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    For once? Are you implying that you've proof read my posts for errors?:D
     
  23. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  24. Viola Star

    Viola Star Member

    Fiorentina
    Italy
    May 9, 2006
    Club:
    ACF Fiorentina
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    There is no team that doesn't need Zanetti. There is no
    successful philosophy of football that requires the exclusion
    of a legendary right back. If there is, Pekerman should write
    a book on it. He'll make millions.

    If Zanetti is too attacking then Pekerman can say "Javier, you're
    attacking too much." Then Javier can say, "Ok, I won't attack as
    much." It's not rocket science. A NT manager needs to fit a system
    around his best players, not the other way round.

    I don't see how Javier couldn't have gelled with this team. In fact, I
    think he is absolutely perfect for it. Just imagine Sorin AND Zanetti
    bombing down the wings against Serbia; they could have scored
    twelve.

    Heinze is too small to be a centreback. He's not dominant in the air.

    The club house guy! Well that's useful. Now that Burdisso
    is injured maybe he can come on at right back and make the
    Germans laugh in the quarter finals. Maybe he'll perform a
    few (yellow and red) card tricks.

    I'll agree to leave the gripes for now. I realize that this has
    been discussed to death. It's just I still can't believe it. I'm still
    upset; I believe Zanetti makes Argentina better.

    If Argentina return with the cup then I'll be the first to praise
    Pekerman for being a genius. If Kaka, Ronaldinho and co.
    prove too dazzlingly good, then I'll accept defeat graciously.

    However, if Argentina loses and their loss is in any way
    down to a culpable right back, or a failure to deal adequately
    with an aerial bombardment from Germany or England, then,
    quite frankly, I want Jose's head on a silver platter.
     
  25. Moishe

    Moishe Moderator
    Staff Member

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Mar 6, 2005
    Here there and everywhere.
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    I believe you may have a taken some of what I've been saying out of context. I've never denied the greatness that Zanetti is. I just don't think he fits into Pekermans system. I think to some degree your argument about building a team around the players is more important than building it around the system is valid. Pekerman chose to build his system around Riquelme and not anyone else.

    I've watched Zanetti play and like you said, it would be awesome to be able to bomb both he and Sorin up the wings. Problem with that is we'd be exposed dearly. The way we've played so far we haven't used both are fullbacks in all out attack. Because of that we've been solid at the back. Many scenarios as to why Zanetti got dropped including the possiblity that at this point in his career he was just set in his attacking ways. Who knows? Inter vs Villarreal riff? We may never know.

    Samuel over Heinze? The last time Samuel was consistently good was at Roma and even then he was card prone. Heinze is not that bad in the air and definitely one of the most tenacious defenders in the world. Not card prone either. Hell Heinze is a better all around defender than Zanetti imho just not as good attacking. I'll take the defense with the spoils we have.

    Maybe the fact he brought so few veterans is no coincidence. Look at what a team full of veterans did four years ago. Veteran players no matter how loved by the fans are not always able to change the way they play their game maybe this is the case. When Pekerman writes that book maybe it will be a tell all.

    Having Burdisso out is not good but with Milito, Cufre and to a lesser degree Coloccini as cover we not that hurting. Look at other teams and how dismall they've looked. Now look at how organized and solid we've been. We had much debate on here about Burdisso getting the nod and he's done nothing but impress. Give someone else a chance they just might prove us all wrong like El Pato has.

    We're in the round of 16, we've looked as organized as we have in a few years and we're playing the best futbol in the tournament. Why are we arguing about something that is done and over with? None the less you provided a solid passionate argument that I definitely respect. Nos vemos.
     

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