THE North London Derby - November 18th, 2017 - The Arsenal vs. THEM - Official Thread (R)

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by BIGHMW, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yup, but sadly it's not just Twitter. It can be any Internet forum, website or comments page... even these beloved boards. The Internet in general is one of the biggest, sharpest double-edged sword that's ever been. Probably the biggest.
     
  2. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Especially when said fun was so gentle.
     
  3. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This. What Arsenal did was innocuous. Those complaining need to think about the implications of their complaints: are they really prepared to say that no one with millions of followers should respond to the comments of someone with comparatively few followers?
     
  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Exactly

    I believe in chat shit, get banged. What Arsenal did wasn't but even a bang. The journalist wrote an article that was in effect trolling. Why can't corporate social media accounts clap back? I am not saying hurl abuse, and no one should do that, but s gentle reply ain't shit.

    I said it before, journalists are the last people on earth who believe they are above consequences on social media.
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Again I think you are missing the point slightly.

    Arsenal's tweet was classy trolling agreed.

    And I agree sports journos troll in their columns - its been the key way to get clicks for 10 years

    The question is whether a corporate with millions of followers should troll an individual - a question of social responsibility

    Especially as regards minorities and women who get death threats and rape threats

    We just saw something similar where the telegraph trolled some pols and caused them to get death threats

    IMO there does have to be some restraint exercised by corporates in targeting individuals.
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It's about social responsibility

    I am not saying I know where the line should be drawn, but where a corporate account causes an individual to suffer a barrage of antisemitic abuse IMO somethings gone wrong.

    What for example would be your opinion if Arsenal trolled a female sports presenter and she then got 10 rape threats?

    Is that somehow OK because she said she thought arsenal weren't good at football?
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I should add I doubt Arsenal's social team anticipated this.

    It was a cool piece of trolling ruined by idiots.

    But I think it shows why big corporate accounts have to be careful.
     
  8. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    In tort law (at least in the US and UK), one party generally isn't responsible for the intervening bad acts of others, even if that party did something wrong.

    All Arsenal did was make a snarky response to a stupid post.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Let's recap media practice in the UK

    Whether corporate, political, sports or whatever, if you get bad media, you can vent about it, but there is an unwritten understanding that you don't target the individual journo. You play the ball not the man.

    e.g. When May gets called Maybot by the guardian, she doesn't go on national TV and attack the individual journo. Normally that also extends to not attacking the specific publication.

    Now of course when Jose slags off Jamie Redknapp, I don't give a toss. He's just part of the entertainment anyway. A WWF style feud.

    But IMO there is a slippy slope here - see Trump at the far end.

    This is why I am in favour of keeping that general rule that Journalists are not individually targeted for their coverage

    Now I know that the Daily Mail are scum. But I also believe corporates do have a social responsibility not to attack individual journalists - even if intended in good fun.

    Because what comes next is a manager slagging off a journo to worldwide audience in a cruel self serving way.

    let's just not go there.
     
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  10. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Fair enough, but what Arsenal did doesn't really count as "targeting." It was a silly reply. United did something similar with some guy last year about Zlatan.
     
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  11. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Soft times

    I’m sure the guy didn’t lose any sleep

    Society is becoming too much
     
  12. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    10hrs to KO. Anybody wanna make the Burnley thread?
     
  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What
     

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