I thought I read something where they said they only had $10 million in those type of funds available by that date. IDK if it is $10 mil per year period, or if there was a larger pool that had been accounted for. The article I read made it seem like the latter. It also said thete was a meeting scheduled for this year, & made it sound like more funds could be forthcoming. Though, $20 million for that family is not much.
That's right- it was the state, not the city. Thanks. Probably being selfish, and I know we shouldn't get too attached to renderings - but I hope this shortfall doesn't mean the owners cut corners/dumb down what looked like a very elegant addition to the downtown core. As an MLS fan, I was proud of that design and what they were bringing to St Louis.
Seems like this should be posted here too: 100 days into a delay, Nashville officials staying quiet on MLS stadium plans https://www.newschannel5.com/news/1...-officials-staying-quiet-on-mls-stadium-plans
Can someone please explain or attach a link explaining how exactly this stadium project is almost half a billion dollars?
Good question. Other recent articles have pegged the stadium cost at around $200-250M. I did find this (dated Nov. 7): https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis...s-a-timeline-for-a-team-name-and-how-the.html I assume that's it.
That's how the Crew stadium project is part of a development that costs over 600 mil. The stadium cost is either around 240 mil (or perhaps as much as 310 mil based on reports the Haslams threw in an additional 70 mil).
If we were going to guess on what the extra $70M was for... There are three considerations to any project (thank you construction degree): Time, Cost and Scope Obviously since the Cost has gone up we can assume one or both of the other considerations have been affected. Scope: I did notice in the last crew update that the new stadium requires a water retention wall. When I read that I was shocked at the expanse of that undertaking. I assume this was considered initially, as your stadium sits next to the river, but that project might have been drastically underestimated in size or material cost. That could be where some or all of that extra $70million is going toward. Maybe some upgrades in stadium amenities too if you've heard anything about that? Time: Another major cost is labor, so it could be that they probably have to hire more labor to get the stadium built in the project timeline, given that winters are hard and the retention wall needs to be built first. Same goes for St. Louis, The scope of the project was much larger than I thought. Actually I heard about the training facility/hotel/retail space, I just forgot about it. $460M still seems a bit high but is more realistic with all the other considerations. Thanks guys for indulging my nerdiness
They're drilling 80 feet deep for the secant wall at the new Crew stadium. It's next to the Olentangy river, just upstream of the confluence with the larger Scioto river. The area where the stadium is hasn't flooded in about 60 years but was underwater several times in the prior 60 years. The city of Columbus has been removing some lowhead dams on the Scioto and dropping the water level. The field at the new stadium will be below the outside ground level. If we got rain on the scale of the 1913, 1937, or 1959 floods, we'd have a giant swimming pool.
There's something vaguely naughty about "olentangy". That should make it's way into a supporters club title.
Someday has already has claimed the use of the Mighty Olentangy in their sports marketing: Now the regal Scioto River, on the other hand...
I still love that the first MLS team with a Soccer specific stadium is the first whith the SECOND SSS
An asterisk would have to be placed on Inter-Miami depending on your feelings about the Ken Horowitz upgrades to Lockhart for 1998. I've always contended that the Miami Fusion played in the league's first SSS. It wasn't originally built that way, but the substantial work put in prior to the 1998 season turned it into one. Crew Stadium was definitely the first built from scratch SSS. And Inter-Miami only shares a stadium location, not the history, with the Miami Fusion, so their Lockhart Stadium, which will predate the new Crew Stadium is depending on your narrative the first "second SSS". Then again, apparently the Crew are now laying fallow in Austin waiting for a stadium while the new Crew are in Columbus, so maybe this isn't their second built stadium, either.
And for more MLS Franchise Fun(tm), Inter-Miami won't be the first second team to get a city's first SSS. *Well depending on whether consider the 2008 Expansion San Jose Earthquakes or the 2006 Relocation Houston Dynamo the continuation of the 1996-2005 San Jose Clash/Earthquakes. MLS sure has fun with semantics!
I'm sure it was done that way for legal reasons but no one actually believes that. I mean, I just bought a jersey with a star on it. Kinda hard for an expansion team to have a Cup.
Huh? It wouldn’t be the first time an expansion club takes the name and history of a previous team.. If/when the Sonics come back to Seattle, I’m sure they will claim the history of the team that moved to OKC....
I know you are trolling, but the Sonics left Seattle without a team. The Crew never left. Thumbs up on the troll though!
Not trolling... Just noting that your point that the star on the Crew’s crest proves they aren’t an expansion club is factually incorrect.. If you’d prefer, we can point at the Earthquakes, who haven’t won a championship since their return, but still claim the history and stars from the relocated club But, realistically, it’s just semantics and only important in the pedantic sense. Having the “expansion” be instantaneous, the “relocating” club going on hiatus and taking advantage of all the expansion benefits, while the “expansion” club taking over everything about the club is unusual and it is perfectly understandable why Austin would be called the expansion club..
How many years was San Jose without a team? How many years was Columbus without a team? Again, expansion is expanding a team into cities that are without. The Texas capital was without, Columbus wasn't. You can argue the legalities of the paperwork, done mostly for tax implications I'm sure, but there was no time off for MLS in Columbus.
Hit enter too soon, so I added some to my post. My point is just that the mechanism used to keep the Crew in Columbus was for the Crew’s owners to pay an expansion fee and buy the Crew assets off Precourt. By that definition the Crew are the expansion club. However, if you want to call Austin the expansion club using your definition, go crazy. But from a mechanism standpoint, the Crew are the expansion club and Austin is a relocated team that went on hiatus.