The MLS Stadium Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by fairfax4dc, May 20, 2016.

  1. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Of course lack of state income tax in a lot of those places is the trade off....
     
  2. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Illinois (the state being discussed with the high property taxes) has an almost 5% state income tax. It truly is one of the most taxed states. In some IL counties the sales tax is as high or higher than here in TN (9.5-9.75%) where we have extremely low property tax and no state income tax. In Cook County sales tax is 10.25%. Insane!
     
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  3. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That's not true. Horowitz invested millions into refitting Lockhart into being able to hold 20k, making major improvements and additions.
     
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  4. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3129 athletics68, Oct 1, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2019
    He invested a paltry (even for the late 90’s) $5 million into leveling the field and adding some bleachers. That doesn’t make it soccer specific.

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    That is just a larger than average aluminum high school stadium. Crew Stadium was the first MLS SSS. Lockhart’s main claim to fame was that it was at least right sized unlike most of its contemporaries like the Rose Bowl, Arrowhead, old Soldier Field, etc...
     
  5. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    I recall something about Florida’s version of tax increase ceiling having a negative affect on people wanting to down size. The property valuation would jump when the property sold, causing a huge increase in tax for the new owner. In addition, the property that the former owner bought was probably higher tax valuation than the one they sold.

    Caused a lot of empty nesters to not down size.
     
  6. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Trying to recall from my high school days in the late 70's... The airport is west of the stadium, so that view is looking west. The stands on the right and left would be the north and south side of the stadium, and appear to be the same as when I was in school.

    It looks like the end zone stands are where most of the capacity was in the renovation.

    Is really tempting to go to a game there next year. That would mean games in three future former MLS stadia... Lockhart, Nippert, and Crew Stadium.
     
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  7. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    At least for all our faults, we're still building housing at a reasonable clip in Chicago despite technically losing population, keeping things from going completely insane. Unfortunately part of that development has come at a cost to the single room occupancy places which has caused an increase in homelessness, though seemingly not nearly as bad as places like SF/LA.
     
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  8. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. But they also still die eventually. None of the old people in my childhood neighborhood downsized as you might expect they would, but now they’re all dead. And new people have bought their homes.
     
  9. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Is it still 2009 there? Lots of those towns have median sale prices below $50K.
     
  10. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    In some ways it might almost be better for them if it were. They were blue collar towns at their peak. Nowadays many of those suburbs are as blighted as any of the worst parts of the city.

    https://interactive.wbez.org/dolton/
     
  11. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Crew ceremonial groubdbreaking at 2 pm Thursday. Reportedly 3,000 RSVPs (that is more than we get for a USOC match). Garber supposedly coming. What could possibly go wrong?

    PG13 stadium porn from Miami. I would not watch the whole thing, but some ancillary buildings & frames starting to go up.

     
  12. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
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    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That temp stadium feels like it's getting WAY too much attention for what it is.
     
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  13. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Too much attention from whom?
     
  14. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The league, the club and big soccer. When Empire was being put up, nobody really cared, because it was going away. The attention put on Lockhart, the money being spent, etc.. so weird that anybody is paying attention enough to make a video about the progress at any stage, much less some out buildings.
     
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  15. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s a temporary venue? I was under the impression it’s their indefinite home.
     
  16. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Supposedly there will be their USL club playing there when Inter moves to their "real" stadium in Miami. That's why there are so many temporary stands.
     
  17. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    It sure is. We may as well call them Interim Miami until they move to Miami Freedom Park.

    https://www.intermiamicf.com/en/club/facilities
     
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  18. athletics68

    athletics68 Member+

    Dec 12, 2006
    San Diego & San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guess I missed the part where Miami Arsenic Park was moving forward.
     
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  19. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    You're here. People have different interests. I went down to Audi Field's construction at least once a week when it was under construction and have photos and videos from those weekly visits. I simply didn't create a blog or vlog.

    Even if portions of the venue are not permanent, it's a significant project and the beginning of the return of MLS to the region.

    This is a significantly larger project than Empire Field. Also (and obviously), that was in Canada and strictly considered a temp venue from the start.
     
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  20. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was Empire Field the site of the old Empire Stadium, where the Lions used to play before BC Place was built?
     
  21. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's nothing wrong with it, it's just weird to see so much attention paid to a temporary structure. That and I think that Miami FO might feel deep down that the Freedom Park thing isn't going to pan out.
     
  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes.
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I remember plenty of stuff about Empire.

    Regardless this venue is a permanent place the organization, hopefully not the first team's league games, but this is the practice facility and home to the reserve and academy teams. Empire was a straight up temporary facility.
     
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  24. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I don't think it's a a temporary structure. I think it's a permanent structure. It's a temporary home for the first team. That's different than it being a temporary structure.
     
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  25. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
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