The Michael Carrick Celebration Thread

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  1. Ashur

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  2. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Carrick is making a smooth transition to coaching - Smalling

    www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-united/story/3468879/michael-carrick-is-making-smooth-transition-to-coaching-role-chris-smalling?src=com

    That has to be the 3rd of 4th United player who has been complimentary of Carrick in his capacity as a coach. Pogs and McTominay particularly have gone on on how he has had an impact on their game as midfielders.
    Early days obviously, but I personally have a great feeling about Carrick as a coach. He'll learn some valuable lessons in specific areas just by being around Mourinho. But beyond that, I think it's clear he appears to have a knack for it as well.
     
  4. Naboomagnoli

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    I really hope so. There’s something satisfying about a clearly intelligent player having a knack for explaining to others how it’s done. It’s frustrating when someone amazing at football found it so intuitive that they can’t shed light on why they were so good.
     
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  5. jeff070

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    That's why you don't see Ronaldo Romario Maradona etc... become great coaches. They always relied on their instinctive game and this is fault to the managers they played under as they never challenged them to think the game. They allowed them to be instinctive and worked around that to gain results, instead of teaching them to be both.
     
  6. Ashur

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    I believe that to insure success coaching, Carrick has to be patient and take his time with it. Even if he has a knack for it, he still needs to learn the craft. I assume he's working on getting his badges, but remaining an assistant (especially to someone like Mourinho for a while will only benefit him).
    Nothing indicates it will happen this way, but if someone were to blow enough smoke up his butt and convinces him to take a head coaching job before he's ready, that's where it could lead him into trouble and potentially ruin what was a promising career.
    I personally would love it, if his first head coaching gig ends up being with one of United's youth teams and then progresses from there. Longshot probably, but that would be my wish.
     
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  8. Ashur

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    Jose has announced that Carrick will start vs Watford, in what will be the final game of his career.
    Nice touch to have him lead the team out for one last time at Old Trafford.
     
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    I liked Carrick but if there was one fault in his game is that he never scored much e.g. he scored 16 goals in 11 Prem seasons with us.
     
  12. Ashur

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    Video version of the article above.

     
  13. johno

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    A complaint that would never be leveled at Makelele.
     
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  14. Ashur

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    Or Busquets and many other DCM or DLPs really... He's definitely compensated for that in so many other aspects.

    In regards to Sunday's game, Mourinho has told that while Carrick will start, he won't finish the game because he wants him to come off by himself (to get the recognition from the crowd.
    I'm just looking forward to see him just run the attack the way we've seen him do for all those years.
     
  15. Futbol_Head

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    I was reminiscing earlier today. How long was Carrick's spell at CB when we were going through that injury crisis? I want to say it was between 2011-12 for maybe half a season? Or was it just in spells?
     
  16. johno

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    A big part of a long stretch. I'd say for a few months he played CB 3 out of 4 matches maybe.
     
  17. Ashur

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    Pretty confident that Carrick having to play at CB for various stretches, happened at least twice (under both SAF and Van Gaal).
    Mass casualties in defense to the point of crisis was seemingly the norm for us on a yearly basis without fail, it seemed like.
     
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    Carrick will make an ideal coach at United - Herrera

    www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11369179/ander-herrera-says-michael-carrick-will-make-head-coach-at-man-united

    Opinion strictly based on gut feeling (regarding his temperament and aptitude for the job) along with what has been said about players (many who credit him for helping them with their game), I really believe Carrick could end up being successful as a coach (as long as he takes his time with it and goes thru a solid progression).
    Looking forward to see how he grows into it as soon as this summer.
     
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    Where does Carrick end in terms off ATG CM's at United for you?

    Top 4?

    Robson, Keane, Scholes and Carrick?

    I remember his last title winning campaign being epic where he basically played CM alone for a year.
     
  22. Ashur

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    He has to be in the Top 4 in the modern era. The Top 5 of United central midfielders in that time period is:
    1- Keane
    1a- Robson
    3- Scholes
    4- Carrick
    5- Ince
     
  23. jeff070

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    One defect for Carrick was he couldn't play against high pressure, he was never a retainer, and we suffered the two Champions league defeats because of Barca's high press.
     
  24. Ashur

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    #349 Ashur, May 14, 2018
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    He needed help in those games, which left him completely alone and overwhelmed. Carrick, in a way in those 2 games, was very much a microcosm of the team in general when they faced Barca in those 2 CL finals: ultimately made to look worse than they really were and beaten by a superior team/opponents at that time, particularly in 2011.
    I still wholeheartedly believe however, especially in 09, that had Fletcher been present, the outcome really could have been different. He was a pivotal loss for that game and so it proved in the end.
     
  25. benni...

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    Hard to blame him or call it a defect. His "partners" in midfield were Anderson and Giggs.
     

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