The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    There’s a great story about Messi dribbling past the whole opposition in training told by Thierry Henry .

    Messi was having a mini strop about a decision ..
     
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  2. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

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    Jun 21, 2010
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    Well yea, I believe some of the other guys also has told that story before but I mean its really has been a while since he really pulled that kind of run. He looked somewhat slow and jaded since that second leg against Liverpool.

    I'm glad he finally back to his "normal" form.
     
  3. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    Aug 5, 2014
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    Chelsea LFC
    messi probably gets enough rest.
     
  4. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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  5. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

    Barcelona
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    Aug 5, 2014
    Club:
    Chelsea LFC
    most value goal: 19,34
    most value goal from outside the box: 6,04 ( most goal from outside the box 16)
    most open play goal: 120
    most freekick goal: 21 with 21.71 expected goal
    most throuh ball:more than 300
    900 attempts-32,6 goals worth of value
    ronaldo-1005 attempts just 3,07 goals worth of value aka the most wasteful player ever
     
  6. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    But 5th 2 seasons ago
     
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  7. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    fifa and uefa suck,thats it
     
  8. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Same article:

    https://www.givemesport.com/1512219...-three-times-better-than-any-other-footballer



    But let it sink in that Messi is almost THREE times better than ANY footballer statistically — three times!

    It isn’t even close.
     
  9. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
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  10. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    Argentina
    kms per second, must be some speed. :eek:
     
  11. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    Aug 5, 2014
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  12. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    What’s Leo’s career goal tally ??
     
  13. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    LMGTFY
     
  14. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    All out of date ;)
     
  15. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    683
     
  16. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Thank you !!
     
  17. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
  18. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
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    FC Barcelona
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    Argentina
  19. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    this debate already ended in 2009. others are media bullshit.
     
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  20. celito

    celito Moderator
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    He does ignore the stat of Ronaldo’s advantage in KO round goals . Probably on purpose .
     
  21. puyol

    puyol Member+

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    Dec 24, 2009
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  22. Danko

    Danko Member+

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    Mar 15, 2018
    Apparently Penaldo used to say that Golden Shoe is better than the Ballon D'Or. Gee did that backfire! ;)
     
  23. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    Messi's closest freekick hattrick, two goals and post. I wonder how many freekick hattricks there is in the senior level?

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  24. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    No doubt there are others (especially pre-1990s) but here are five confirmed instances.

    1994 Giuseppe Signori (Lazio v Atalanta)


    1997 Ray McKinnon (Dundee United v Kilmarnock)


    1997 Kostas Frantzeskos (PAOK v Kastoria - PAOK changed shirts at halftime)


    1998 Sinisa Mihajlovic (Lazio v Sampdoria)


    2015 Cristiano da Silva (Kashiwa Reysol v Vegalta Senda - with extra time)
     
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  25. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
    Finland
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    FC Barcelona
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    Argentina
    Nice one. So there's at least four of them, the first one isn't really a freekick hattrick as the freekicks are given by another player.
     

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