it's clear to me that Messi had a better copa than CR7 had a euro but that's the age we live in team titles matter for individual awards
No doubt. Hard to believe that Kevin Keegan won the Ballon in 1978 yet England did not even qualify for the World Cup (!)
Remember also that Ronaldo threatened not to go to the Balon d'Or ceremony. Only player to cry and throw a hissy fit over the award. And he won by doing so.
Whereas Messi has attended all the recent awards ceremonies which Ronaldo has won? The attendance of awards ceremonies has nothing to do with the fact that you win personal awards by being the best at the crucial stages. And Ronaldo has been top level for us when it really mattered, whereas Messi hasn’t for you. And it’s led to team glory in recent times, which leads to personal glory. If we don’t win anything this year, I can’t see Ronaldo winning any personal awards. But if we win CL, given his contribution so far he will have deserved the personal accolades that come with that.
There was a game around one Balon d'Or he missed. Regardless, never cried publicly about it. Ronaldo made it clear he wasn't attending it because he wasn't winning it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gi...for-andres-iniesta-after-50-win-v-sevilla?amp Messi let Iniesta go alone to take the trophy so all the glory/moment would be about Iniesta. Tradition is that both the captains go together to lift the trophy.
The last one he won, waaaay back in January 2016, he attended and there was a game a couple of days later. Let’s not be silly with the excuses here.
First player to score 40 goals 9th season a row for club Most competitive team titles (no fixed or invitational) 38 Alves 38 Maxwell 36 Iniesta 35 Giggs 33 Messi 31 Eusebio 29 Pele ... 23 Cruyff 22 Di Stefano 21 Beckenbauer 15 Zidane 12 Maradona
Le top 5 des joueurs les mieux payés au monde 1. Lionel Messi : 126M€ 2. Cristiano Ronaldo : 94M€ 3. Neymar : 81,5M€ 4. Gareth Bale : 44M€ 5. Gérard Piqué : 29M€.
do you have data on how many team titles they each contested? for example Maradona has 1 wc from 4 attempts. Pele 3 from 4... etc
do you have data on how many team titles they each contested? for example Maradona has 1 wc from 4 attempts. Pele 3 from 4... etc
Compering team title is pretty stupid. Ruggeri won 1 WC (2 finals) , 2 Copa America, 1 Confederation, that should have put him above the likes of Zanetti, Pasarella, Maldini etc as a player if its based on that.
Messi wins 17-18 Liga (34/38 games) with most 32 Goals (24 Fakenaldo) 12 Assists (9 Suarez) 17 Through Balls (10 Koke) 82 Chances Created (73 Perez) 171 Dribbles (84 Morales) Most competitive team titles (no fixed or invitational) 38 Alves 38 Maxwell 37 Iniesta 35 Giggs 34 Messi 31 Eusebio 29 Pele ... 23 Cruyff 22 Di Stefano 21 Beckenbauer 15 Zidane 12 Maradona
Messi reached goal #1000 in his career in all competitions since he started : New Old Boys 1994- (40) New Old Boys 1995 - (36) New Old Boys 1996 - (36) New Old Boys 1997 - (40) New Old Boys 1998 - (27) New Old Boys 1999 - (55) Barcelona (beginners) 2000 - 20001 (1) Barcelona (Youngsters 2001 - 2002) (0) Barcelona (junior) 2002-2003 (37) Barcelona (Youth) 2003-2004 (31) Barcelona (C) 2004-2005 (5) Barcelona (B) 2003-2005 (6) Argentina (20 years) ( 18) Argentina (23 years) (2) Argentina (61) Barcelona (Friendly Matches) 2004 - 20018 (34) Barcelona 2004 - 2018 (550)
Messi (9) has won more Liga titles than Real Madrid (8) has since 1990. WOW! Leo Messi has been involved in more than 50% of Barcelona's 87 La Liga goals this season! Titles since Messi made his debut for Barcelona: Messi: 32 Real Madrid: 18
Messi scored 7 and assisted 4 in WC qualifier and Argentina scored a mere 19 goals. More than 50% of Argentina goal also came from Messi.
How the hell did Ronaldo fanboys conclude that their lover had a better international tourney than Messi?
10 - Lionel Messi is the player with the most … in La Liga 2017/18:Goals - 32Goals from outside the box - 8Direct free-kick goals - 6Assists - 12Shots - 187Chances created - 82Passes in opp half - 1484Dribbles - 269Through balls- 16Touches in opp box - 282Omnipresent pic.twitter.com/odPvBuugX7— OptaJose (@OptaJose) April 30, 2018
Would probably be a challenge to find a player who finished a domestic league as the leading goal scorer AND assists leader.