The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    This many



     
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  2. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
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    well im not gonna count them
     
  3. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Feb 28, 2005
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    Messi has around 55-60 goals from outside the box not counting FKs.
     
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  4. Bada Bing

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    Jul 13, 2012
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    Possibly furthest freekick goal after vs. Paraguay, also the volley would've been some goal.

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  5. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
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  6. celito

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    Palmeiras
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    Out of 400 goals I've seen, Pele has around 50 from outside the box. Can't tell how many of those were in those European friendlies. But a lot of videos of his goals in Brazil were lost in the fire of a TV station from back in the day. So I'd imagine Pele's had a few more than Messi at this point.
     
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  7. celito

    celito Moderator
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    He is only 10 goals away from Ronaldo European league wise (if you count his 3 goals for Sporting) with around 100 fewer games.
     
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  8. Bada Bing

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    Jul 13, 2012
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    Forget that, Messi is only 4 goals from Fakenaldo on club level overall.
     
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  9. celito

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    USA
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    Only if you count Messi’s 2nd and 3rd division goals which are 11. Either way he is close with quite a bit of fewer games.
     
  10. Bada Bing

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    They're still official senior level goals, also two and half years younger.
     
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  11. Rattlehead

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    Jun 21, 2010
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    Its amazing that at 30, he showed zero sign of slowing down. Goal and assist game after game.
    People tend to ingnore the fact that CR is 2 1/2 year older and has been top scorer in league and CL, has won WPOTY before Messi did. So it's Messi who has catching up no the other way around.
     
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  12. afar

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    Apr 26, 2007
    Really classy message from Messi for Dinho ---

    "As I always said, I learned a lot by your side. I will always be grateful to you for how easy it was that you did everything to me when I got to the dressing room.

    "I was lucky to share many things with you and I am very happy because, in addition to a phenomenon with the ball, you are a very great person and that is the most important thing. Even if you decide to leave, football will never forget your smile. All the best, Ronnie."

    http://www.givemesport.com/1238157-...e-to-ronaldinho-after-his-official-retirement



    Messi is almost "half-Brazilian" given his affection for Dinho and Neymar, lol.

    The Brazilians at Barca, though, really took care of Messi when Messi first started out ---- so good to know that Messi still appreciates it so much.
     
  13. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Somebody needs a better Spanish -> English translator.
     
  14. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
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    2008 Olympic semifinal

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  15. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Brazil
    Messi is now pichichi and tied for top assists.
     
  16. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
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    In answer to the thread title, "NO!", it is not up for discussion.

    In case it hadn't been answered yet. :thumbsup:
     
  17. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    They'll still give the next world player award to Cronaldo ... :(
     
  18. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

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    Jan 3, 2018
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    Netherlands
    LOL LOL
     

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  19. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

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    Jan 3, 2018
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    People tend to ignore the fact that Ronaldo clearly detoriated since 2012.
     
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  20. Rattlehead

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    Jun 21, 2010
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    Well, he has been riding on his team success in last few years.
     
  21. Rattlehead

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    Jun 21, 2010
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    FC Barcelona
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  22. JoCryuff98

    JoCryuff98 Member+

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    Netherlands
    Jan 3, 2018
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    Am I the only guy who believes Totti is slightly better than Zidane
     
  23. Rattlehead

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    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
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    FC Barcelona
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    Argentina
    Ronaldinho in his prime is way better than Zidane. Much better overall skills, except when it comes to header. Then again, Zidane's head won 98 final but cost his team a WC 06 final.

    Del Piero is another player I rate higher than Zidane, and also original the original Ronaldo.
     
  24. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Feb 28, 2005
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    Zidane was good at headers ? AFAIK those 2 goals in the final were his first headed goals in his career and he really didn't have many others.
     
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  25. JoCryuff98

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    Jan 3, 2018
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Yeah
     

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