The Life of Pablo: Mastroeni Fried

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Tony in Quakeland, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
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  2. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Meanwhile in DC.
     
  3. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm surprised ... and I'm not.

    I thought last year was a fluke - the defense was (at one point at least) a full half goal a game stingier than anyone, with a handful of teams cluster for the second best spot. Just from the games of theirs I watched, I thought they were more lucky than good and that they would revert to mean – and that if they didn’t produce goals to offset that they were dead.


    Pablo also seemed all about motivation and had little grasp of tactics. But I thought he would live on past year a little longer.


    Anyone know anything about the interim guy? Is he a likely successor?
     
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  4. Tony in Quakeland

    Jan 27, 2003
    Pleasant Hill, CA
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    Going out on a limb here - so I guess you want Olsen gone?
     
  5. USFootiefan1980

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  6. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

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  7. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

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    Feb 14, 2007
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  8. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

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    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
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    It seems Rapids FO have accepted that they are toast.

    Toast accepts bad managers as sacrifice?
     
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  9. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
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    I mean ... why now?

    They didn't care the half dozen other times they probably could have.
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Same thought. Like, obviously he wasn't doing a good job, but they have had some decent results lately, and it's right after the summer transfer window has (mostly) closed. You'd think they would have brought in a new guy to play with the roster in the summer, then revamp in the off-season and go for it next year.

    But then, it's Kroenke, so obviously they ********ed even this simple task up.
     
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  11. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
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    Real Salt Lake
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    United States
    Predicting when a cheap team will fire a bad coach is like wondering when a teenager will clean their room. They probably will sooner or later, but it's on their own schedule, and there's not much that you can do to speed up the process.
     
  12. EvilTree

    EvilTree Member+

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    Nov 20, 2007
    Frozen Swampland, Soviet Canuckistan
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    well, it's season tickets renewal time. Rapids FO gotta pretend they care before hiring the cheapest coach they can find. Or keep the interim guy.

    I'm guessing signing Howard didn't move the needle much in terms of attendance. One can only tolerate so much sucky soccer
     
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  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    2015: 15,657
    2016: 16,278
    2017: 15,380

    Who'd have thought that a goalkeeper wouldn't drive an attendance surge?
     
  14. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
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    It isn't just the coach. Pablo was a pretty different coach from Pareja. The way the team was set up is so different.

    It would make more sense to clean house than just Pablo.
     
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  15. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It was up in the second half of last season. Then came a bad off-season and an early trade that eviscerated the team's strength. Somehow, the bad results which came next hurt attendance.
     
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  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    About. damn. time.

    Some responses to the thread:

    Why now? I think there are two reasons. One, Hinchey left at the beginning of the window, midway through they made Smith the interim GM, and he was focused on the window until last week. Two, the season ticket auto-renewal deadline in Friday. For background last year the Rapids announced that if you signed up fro season tickets you would automatically be renewed unless you cancelled them in a 21 day window that ends Friday. My bet is they're getting a lot more cancellations than they hoped.

    Howard attendance bump. Yes there was one. Its no conincidence that the only non-sellouts last year after mid-May were a weeknight game and the night that the Broncos played their first post-Super bowl champions preseason game, the Rockies played, and Journey were at the Pepsi Center. That's not because the Rapids were suddenly good.

    Steve Cooke full-time/ I doubt it unless he lights a fire under the team and they somehow storm to a playoff position from being toast (something that's never happened).

    Also Pablo was 4 games short of tying the record for most games coached by a Rapids coach.
     
  17. Quinn 33

    Quinn 33 Member+

    Apr 25, 2003
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't help but feel a bit sad about how it all played out.

    Pablo is a legend to the club for what he’s done as a player. Last year’s run was also an achievement worth noting. However, I always felt he was in over his head as a head coach at this level, and to some extent I truly feel bad for him. He was not a particularly good coach, but his appointment was a hastily formed shotgun-marriage by the FO, and he was rarely given the resources to be successful, resources that are common in any well-run MLS organization.

    A coaching change is a good first step that has been long overdue, but the Rapids front office and KSE still have a lot of bad decisions to answer for. Will they actually conduct a real coaching search instead of just hiring the cheapest/easiest option? Will player acquisitions be more meaningful to the roster's actual needs? Will there actually be a long-term plan to build a competitive side?

    It is rather conspicuous that this would happen now; only a few days out from the end of the season ticket renew op-out period. I wonder if the number of people "opting-out" was large enough to cause alarm.

    ...and bear in mind that we've been all but mathematically eliminated form the playoffs for quite a while now, and this also basically makes it official that the summer window was totally wasted.

    The FO/KSE still have a lot to do before this club is no longer a train-wreak.

    Thank you for your service Pablo, even if it didn’t turn out the way Rapids fans all would have liked.
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
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    United States
    @KCbus , @Yoshou , @Ismitje can one of you fix the spelling error in the title? Let's at least get his name right. :D
     
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  19. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
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    #19 Ismitje, Aug 15, 2017
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  20. Just Offside

    Just Offside Member

    May 22, 2015
    Color me surprised. When Pablo started talking about 2018 six games or so into the season I figured there was a dude who knew he had ironclad job security.
     
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  21. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    This looks like Dom Kinnear's next stop.
     
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  22. Onionrings

    Onionrings Member

    Sep 30, 2016
    Long Island
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is anyone surprised Mastroeni was fried? After all, weed is legal in the great state of Colorado. :whistling:
     
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  23. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
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    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. Sal Paradise

    Sal Paradise BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 14, 2009
    Club:
    Jaguares de Chiapas FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Rapids firing Pablo Mastroeni is roughly equivalent to White Star Lines firing the deck chair steward on the Titanic.
     
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  25. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We did a pre-emptive sacrifice in San Jose... we'll see how that works.
     

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