The Lieblingspanzer that Could: Weston McKennie at Schalke

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  1. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

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    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
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    Switzerland
    It’s not just about the teams, but the league as well. There is much more space and time on the ball in MLS. You don’t got those luxuries in most European leagues.
     
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  2. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Is it the magic ether in Europe? Depends on the league dude.
     
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  3. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

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    Switzerland
    I’m not bashing MLS, just making an observation.
     
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  4. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Feb 1, 2005
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    Yeah but it’s not a true statement. It’s a true statement that there’s more time on the call in MLS vs BL1. But La Liga gives their players all sorts of time on the ball. It just depends on the league.
     
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  5. wixson7

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    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Sorry to interrupt the league comparison thread.. :)

    watched his Union Berlin game and pretty typical performance. Box to box, all over the field being disruptive on every header, going in hard on tackles, moving ball quickly around. I’ve been really impressed with his calmness on the ball especially good with nice one touch passes out of traffiC, Shows his awareness and confidence.

    had a few patented 60 yard runs with the ball but not much comes of it. Had the beauty of a thru ball late in the game, almost a no looker it seemed.

    again, hate the comparisons but lots of jermaine Jones as his game is starting to mature/solidify.
     
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  6. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

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  7. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how's his performances so far this season compare to his over the past two seasons?
     
  8. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    not sure stats-wise, but his style has started to really form into shape. Several years ago he was raw, wild, fun, and at times undisciplined. Noted that he was playing a million different positions, but even that he’s “matured” for lack of a better word.

    seems more of a professional CM player, leader on the field, and probably locked in to play 90’ each game. Has the work rate and skills and leadership to justify it.

    my 2 cents.
     
  9. tomásbernal

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    14 duels won!?!?!? How the hell....
     
  10. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    About 10 of those where in the air.
     
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  11. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    75% pass completion rate is pretty poor.
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    The team's was 76%. It's a style thing - 75% is fine.
     
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  13. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    There’s a lot of time and space on the ball in Liga MX, arguably more than MLS. Do you think that makes MLS better or worse than Liga MX?
     
  14. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

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    So now 75% is better than, say, 85%? That's not even at the average level of BS logic.
     
  15. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
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    I'm amazed since he is so short!

    *ducks*
     
  16. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
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    I feel like you're trying to be clever, but it's not working.

    A 75% pass completion rate is fine for a midfielder when the team's rate is 76%. If it was 65% (or 59%, like Caligiuri, or 36% like Raman), that would be concerning.
     
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  17. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

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    If you say so....maybe I am just naive and do not understand soccer. Perhaps I have been under the false assumption that the more accurate the passing, the higher the likelihood of creating a goal as well as avoiding an error that leads to an opposition goal. Somehow I feel you are joking.
     
  18. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

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    Aug 31, 2017
    Do you know what types of passes he missed or what the scenario was when he was attempting the passes? Pretty speculative to suggest something based a stat without knowing the context.
     
  19. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
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    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So I feel kind of bad that I didn't watch that age group FCD team until the Dallas Cup run and McKennie was already gone. McKennie, Cannon, Pomykal, Ferreira. Pretty good talent from one age group academy team. What I don't know and wonder is how McKennie and Pomykal played together. What I'd like to see is Adams at the 6 and McKennie at dual 8/10's with Pulisic at left winger and Sargent at CF and Weah at right winger. So much athleticism, skill and bite with a lot of movement and position swapping. Right now I'd just settle for all of them being healthy for a while.
     
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  20. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    methinks when comparing successful passing stats the people who make their $$ on this stuff look at the number of sideways and back passing a team does in building up their %.

    the % by itself means little without looking at the type of passing each team and player does.

    [caligiuri's % is so low partly because, in this particular game, he is more of an attacker who must constantly probe the defense with risky passes.]
     
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  21. lmorin

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    United States
    You are correct, but I was not exactly speculative. Context is certainly important. If he he played a central attacking position and a large percentage of his passes were attacking passes within the PA, the success rate is expected to be lower than the team average. Otherwise not. High risk passes shouldn't be played elsewhere on the field. McKennie has all-too-frequent brain farts and commonly plays high risk or downright stupid passes in the central midfield area. Still, 75% is low for a midfielder, which is where he played. It is also worth noting that WhoScored lists McKennie's "passing" as being "weak" and his concentration as "very weak."
     
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  22. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

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    Aug 31, 2017
    I don't think anyone can reliably put any faith into anything you are looking at (stats without context and a website's assessment of his overall passing skill) in terms of judging how his passing was in this game.
     
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  23. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    Every touch

    1201209518270689280 is not a valid tweet id
     
  24. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
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    Aug 31, 2017
    Now, we can talk....

    thanks for these, @watke
     
  25. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    starting to get frustrated with weston not improving his defensive positioning
     

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