Spaghetti Weston: McKennie at Juventus

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by hokeydokey, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    No one is as disdainful of USA's soccer prowess as the Italians. I read their press regularly and not even the Portuguese (who also dismiss us as wannabes often) are so harsh.
     
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  2. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    may I ask why you mentioned the latter 2?
     
  3. justinpaul10

    justinpaul10 Member+

    Sep 2, 2013
    He was in a sane kind of role, license to roam forward but he was the RCB. Picked his moments. Did a good job.
     
  4. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    More beautiful and warmer places to leave than the Ruhr Valley (which has its strong points, don't get me wrong.)
     
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  5. matabala

    matabala Member+

    Sep 25, 2002
    The Italians would certainly take exception to the use of prowess and USA soccer in the same sentence.
     
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  6. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From a soccer standpoint they probably don't make sense but from a life perspective...both have great weather, stunning scenery, wonderful, cheap food, inexpensive housing and transit. Have been to both and enjoyed them both more than expected. I've found Mediterranean places to be a but slower paced, more relaxed, very easy going. For me those are great qualities to have.

    Obviously though money talks and $1mil in Germany is a lot better than $100k in Greece. I'd out up with snow and short days for the extra $900k I suppose...can use it to buy an amazing house in one of the aforementioned places
     
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  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Get a little villa between Trieste and Koper. You can drive it from Munich in like 5 or 6 hours, or just gas up the plane and your there in 45 mins. Throw in a little Yacht and the Adriatic is your oyster. Italy, Greece, Croatia, Turkey... no need to choose!
     
  8. kruck

    kruck Member+

    Jan 12, 2008
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Buy an island off the coast of Italy, live off of a hoard of renaissance gold you found, adopt a Byzantine lifestyle, travel the Mediterranean and near East, make mysterious references to “The East”, take the daughter of the Ali Pasha as your slave/lover, plot your revenge... oh wait that’s the Count of Monte Cristo..
     
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  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Or "'Wednesday' for freisland..."
     
  10. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Everton's Jonjoe Kenny is going on loan to Schalke for the 2019-20 season. Hopefully that means that McKennie won't get any minutes in that ill-fitting role this season.
     
  11. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    what's with all these young English players going on loan to the Bundesliga?
     
  12. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same reason why young Americans are going over. Player development
     
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  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    That, coupled with the fact that the U18-U23 development structure in England basically doesn't exist. The "Premier League 2" is useless.
     
  14. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    There’s so much money in the Prem even for mid-table teams due to the revenue sharing for TV. This makes it extremely difficult for young domestic talent to get steady minutes given that the clubs can bring in more proven entities from other leagues. Thus, they need a development vehicle for their young “in no man’s land” talent which the Bundesliga is a great fit for.
     
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  15. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great header from Wes in the match the other night- he really came back for it and still put it on goal with a lot of power, forcing a good save. He's so good in the air.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    EPL2 is trash and really is pointless. It exists in it's own universe, still part of the youth pyramid, nothing but kids vs kids. That's not experience for players. Whereas in Germany your U23/II play between 3rd Liga-OL, between 3rd and 5th division vs adults. So players actually gain experience out of it. And performances there moves you up the pyramid.

    I recall more than once Pep bashing EPL2.

    wouldn't call the new RB being player dev, he's played pretty much 40 games for the Everton 1st team and over 3000 min as a pro.
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    So why did the PL create the EPL2 rather than just have a proper system where their reserve squads could play in the Championship/League One/League Two?
     
  18. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Because England has uniquely strong lower division clubs and they and their fans would (literally) riot if reserve teams were allowed into the pyramid at their expense.

    It comes up every so often as a point of reform and it is immediately and near-unanimously shot down.
     
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  19. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Yeah they dont want a Man City II team beating a tranmere or a Colchester. They actually support their lower teams decently and it would be blasphemous to have to sit through those types of matches with a Man United II taking a possible spot to be promoted in the League 1 or 2.. its too prestigious to move up and frankly would make their model of success worse so I dont blame them. Truthfully it isnt broke over there. So what if they pawn off their youngsters and buy them back later. THey can afford it.
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
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  21. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well he plays so many positions that being in two places is now possible!
     
  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    When they extend, is it done with the same wages/bonus structure or is it updated?
     
  23. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Updated.
     
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  24. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Would love to know if he has a sell clause.... 60 million euro???
     
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  25. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    so what's the difference from a completely new contract vs an extension if the wages/bonus are updated with the latter?
     

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