The Lieblingspanzer that Could: Weston McKennie at FC Schalke 04

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  1. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
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    #4376 lmorin, Dec 29, 2018
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    According to Kicker.de, he is #53 of 78 ranked midfielders with an average rating of 3.67.
     
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  2. dd601

    dd601 Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    i would sign up for wes having anywhere near the amount of influence near the amount of influence in a game as Jermaine had against Portugal and the rest of that world cup
     
  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    that includes wingers as well (or are they only listed as forwards/strikers)?
     
  4. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
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    Did you forget the sarcasm emoji for this post?
     
  5. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ireland Republic
    That's one of the key differences between Wes and Jermaine: the lad is very, very competitive but I don't see souped-up aggression there. He's got his id under control.
     
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  6. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    #4381 Bruce S, Dec 30, 2018
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    I thought he was good but I also would not get carried away. He committed a disgusting, cowardly foul against Reus that resulted in a 6 game BL suspension, almost tore Neymar's leg off with a crazy foul. Let's not make him a world class midfielder because he surely wasn't.
     
  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Not really. He played in the EPL and had approximately ZERO impact. He was a good player, don't get me wrong. But he is NOT the standard by which I prefer to rate USA players.
     
  8. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

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    Jul 22, 2012
    Pleasanton, California
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Suit yourself, JJ is one of the best to put on the shirt, and that's normally what people use to set "standards". But if he's too rough for you, that's OK.
     
  9. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now you are just talking nutty. Jones went on loan to Blackburn, started and played 16 matches, won 4 MOTMs and was widely credited with helping to keep them up. At the end of the season >98% of fans voted to buy him even at the inflated price (>double loan clause) Schalke was asking.

    Are you confusing JJ with Bradley who went on loan to AV at the same time and could not buy a game, spending almost his entire loan on the bench?
     
  10. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    United States
    We got JJ at the tail end of his prime but he put in some great performances, including at the World Cup and Copa America.
     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Jones was good enough to cause more than a few German fans to wonder why he was never picked for their NT.

    No, he wasn't a big name in Europe by any measure. But he'd be easily among the Top 5 most hyped Yank players in Europe (by European fans) ever.
     
  12. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    And frankly, if you can't see JJ's quality without the stamp of fan approval (not directed at you Houston, obviously) you are not a great judge of soccer talent.
     
  13. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
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    Dude you're talking out of your ass. My original post stands, your narrative of Jones level was laughably selective at best.
     
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  14. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
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    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
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    FC Dallas
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    United States
    Why don’t we end it since I think we’ve veered far off topic here.
     
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  15. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    when was this and which German fans?
     
  16. dd601

    dd601 Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    been schalke's second best player besides bentaleb. but that's not saying much
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    For a Yank on a CL side, it is :p
     
  18. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
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    United States
    Probably only Schalke fans. He had some very strong CL performances for that team.
     
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  19. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Look above. I said that.
     
  20. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    2008-09 season, and mainly Schalke fans. But it's hard to know, the
    Nationalmannschaft fans don't always state what club they support.

    His duel with Löw made the rounds in the German forums, those two never liked each other. So when Jogi got named, that's when things came to a head and both Jones and his supporters became vocal.

    Sadly, finding old message board messages is hard, not all of them archive the old ones, and forums are by their nature iffy: they disappear, and many lose old posts in hardware accidents (it happened here too).

    An example of the climate at the time:

    https://www.stern.de/sport/fussball...ones-staenkert-weiter-gegen-loew-3813770.html

    PS: Sorry FalseNine, done here with this.
     
  21. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Thanks for posting what you did. I appreciate it.

    It's a great time to be alive having several 19/20 year old Americans at quality Bundesliga clubs.
     
  22. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
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    It was lost in the volume of horse shit you accompanied that single point with.
     
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  23. Dr.Phil

    Dr.Phil Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Caligiuri
     
  24. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    because I think Jones was a good but not great player? You need a visit to your therapist ASAP.
     
  25. dd601

    dd601 Member

    Oct 21, 2004
    caligiuri has been poor. so many moves die because he cannot cross
     

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