The latest sedition of, Fox News actively makes you stupid

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  1. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
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    In a new escalation, Fox brings out the trial balloon for authoritarian Dictator Trump.

    “This is history. We are living — regardless of what happens in that meeting between the two dictators, what we are seeing right now, this is history.”

     
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  2. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Isn't everything 'history'?

    I mean, pretty much by definition... everything is history, isn't it?
     
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  3. ceezmad

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    So did the Continental Army, 2 years after the English and it was up to each colony to decide.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/national/articles/2008/06/27/for-blacks-there-was-no-clear-choice

    In a way the English missed and opportunity to declare all slavery over in the USA, but they could not do it for 2 reasons, the south states were the most loyal to the crown, so declaring slavery illegal would have forced the southern states to fully join the rebellion, and also the Brits still had slave in the Caribbean, freeing slaves in the USA but not in the Caribbean would have created unhappy slave owners there and possible revolts.
     
  4. song219

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  5. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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  6. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
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    Judd Apatow & Seth McFarlane bashing Fox's water carrying for Trump:

     
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  7. bigredfutbol

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    Well, technically--"history" is properly the study of the past, and an interpretation of the records of the past, not just "what happened."

    I mean...if I were, say, a self-consciously pedantic graduate student and part-time adjunct professor, that would likely be my response.

    Carry on...
     
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  8. Naughtius Maximus

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    Good job then, eh? :)
     
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  9. bigredfutbol

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    If I ever get a full-time professorial gig I will be insufferable.
     
  10. song219

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    Like we need more of this in this forum. ;) :p
     
  11. JohnR

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    "Will be"? ;)
     
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  12. American Brummie

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    You come at the king, you better not miss. ;)
     
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  13. superdave

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    Best not miss.
     
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  14. superdave

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    Those people who harassed Nielsen...I’m not comfortable to live in a nation where that stuff happens. I’m more uncomfortable to live in a nation where that stuff is necessary.
     
  15. American Brummie

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    I want her confidence. I read somewhere today that we all need to be as confident as someone who trusts the kitchen staff at a Mexican restaurant after doing what she's done.
     
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  16. superdave

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    That’s not confidence. That’s delusion.
     
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    I mentioned ACT UP & recalled their big protest at St. Patick's Cathedral. They were protesting the Church's stance on abortion, condoms, safe sex education & homosexuality. A bunch of them went inside during mass and laid down in the aisles. Someone ripped up a communion wafer and that overshadowed the whole protest. Even ACT UP leaders thought it was unnecessarily provocative at the time. But as years passed their thoughts changed. These anti baby kidnapping protests have to be in your face. I'd be wary if I were a Trumper implementing this horrendous policy.

    (Wiki)
    "ACT UP activists now say the St. Patrick's protest changed the way many Americans viewed the Catholic Church. It was no longer untouchable, and its policies -- on everything from condoms and abortion to gay marriage and women priests -- were no longer sacrosanct." Jim Hubbard, an ACT UP member and maker of the documentary "United in Anger" about ACT UP history, said "I wasn't clear about what going inside the church would add at the time. But now I think that the shock of going inside and confronting the cardinal really worked. It helped bring ACT UP to mainstream attention. It brought the crisis to a point where the government and the mainstream media really had to start dealing with it."
     
  18. JohnR

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    The suffragettes didn't get ahead by being law-abiding.
     
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  19. superdave

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    There is a clear difference between civil disobedience and yelling at top officials at a restaurant.

    We are opening a terrible door that we may not be able to close literally for decades.
     
  20. JohnR

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    Hey, I understand. You're talking to the guy who defended Ronnie, Daddy Bush, and W. "Just because you disagree with their policies doesn't make them evil." But now we have the genuine thing. Outright evil. The rules change.
     
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  21. bigredfutbol

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    I think we could could make a great team.


    ...on a lot of "Ignore" lists.
     
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  22. Auriaprottu

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    That door got blown clean tf off the hinges a year and a half ago. We (lawl) aren't opening a damn thing.

    People are getting yelled at in public from sea to shining sea for the crime of being a POC. I see no reason why this woman ought not face some of it for openly, proudly being part of the problem.
     
  23. bigredfutbol

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    I'm not a fan of mob activity in general. So yeah.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

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    I was gonna go for stupidity...
     
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  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
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    Dave's right in a sense, though. We DO have to be careful not to do it about things that aren't worth it.

    But you're right, this stuff most definitely IS worth it.
     

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